[Luis Gonzalez]

I read this stuff all the time in FR from supposed "real conservatives".

The argument boils down to the idea that Kerry defeating Bush in 2004, with a divided majority in the Senate, and the inevitability of the SCOTUS being repopulated over the course of the next six to ten years, would be a good thing for the nation, the constitution, conservatism, and the people of the U.S.

Coincidentally, the Democrats believe the exact same thing.

Then, they call me a Republican In Name Only because I support the Republican President, and the platform of the Republican Party.

What's worse, is that after they openly state their support for the Democratic candidate, and attack me for supporting the Republican incumbent, which is are the exact same things that happen to me when I debate anyone over at Democratic Underground, they have the nerve to say that there is no difference between me and a Democrat.

[nopardons]

There are none so blind as those who will not see. These CINOS need to find someplace else to post. They don't understand politics at all, they don't know what RINO, or CONSERVATIVE, or most of the terms the employ mean, and they do NOT give a damn about this nation. They live in a mentally disordered word of hallucinatory daydreams, where reality NEVER intrudes.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Ironic that they believe they are so pure in their conservatism, yet it's nearly impossible to distinguish their rhetoric from that of Democrats.

[MJY1288]

Luis, I'm called a bushbot or a member of the "neener neener" crowd like "Tpaine in the arse" called me tonight. But I do my complaining to who it counts, CONGRESS!

These self proclaimed victims around here, (who call themselves "true" conservatives) that claim Bush has betrayed them, is a joke in itself. I paid attention to George W. Bush's campaign from the time he announced his candidacy and I knew he was a moderate with big spending plans, he planned on expanding the Military and has done so, he planned on Medicare reform with a big price tag and has done so, he said he would stand up to the U.N. and has done so, he said he would get us out of the ABM treaty and has done so, he said he would nominate conservative judges and has done so, he said he would push and sign his expensive Education Bill and has done so.

IMHO this is the first President that has fulfilled 98% of his promises. An Energy Policy is one thing he didn't get done yet, and he made a mistake by signing CFR with the hopes the SCOTUS would strike down the things he disagreed with during his campaign, but that problem can be taken care of in Congress. Not to mention that all of the candidates have figured a way around the law already.

To be perfectly honest, President Bush has done a lot more to steer this country to the right than I thought he would, sure he hasn't made much of an effort to reign in the spending Congress does, but I never thought he would get the Partial Birth Abortion Ban to his desk, I never thought he would be able to sell the Missile Defense program started, I never thought we would get 3 tax cuts, and his handling of 9/11 has shown me that he knows how to lead the world, not just America.

Mark my words, despite what the spoiled brats say, when history is written, this one is going to be remembered as one of the strongest ever, and when he steps aboard Marine One for the last time in January 2009, the world will be a better place because of him.