[EternalVigilance]

A couple of questions, since you are a reasonable person:

When people express their unhappiness with the Administration, or with the current actions of the Republican leadership, which is more effective in channeling that disatisfaction into a constructive channel: harsh putdowns, or reasoned arguments delivered in a reasonable tone?

You can compare for yourself which of those have been mainly going on around here, and who has been doing which.

[Texasforever]

If there were a chance to "change minds" then yes. However, this thread was posted by a person, who I like and respect, that had decided a defeat for Bush was a desirable outcome foe conservatives,. He was not looking to have his mind changed, he was advocating for his position. That is not an opportunity for debate that is becoming the latest in a long history of some conservatives deciding to act as the opposition instead of what they call themselves i. e "The Base". As I said earlier, this thread was in trouble from the start.