The Paradox of Unified Control–How Conservatives Can Win Without Bush

Vanity | 1/31/2004 | Self

[Antoninus]

You are a fool

Good gravy. Either debate the point, concede defeat, or move on. I thought personal attacks weren't allowed around here anymore.

[tpaine]

Kevin -- What gets missed is that the system of government in the US was purposely set up to create a gridlock of sorts. There is an intricate set of checks and balances.
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The constitutional checks/balances aren't working..
Kevin proposes that we try to substitute a contrarian political check on the balance of power.

Works for me..

[Final Authority]

I just read your post and I think it is brilliant. I have advocated that if Hillary is not running this year it may be beneficial for someone like Kerry to win to keep Hillary off the stage for maybe eight years. If Hillary gets the nomination though by a brokered convention this summer all the analysis changes and must be rethought.

[Texasforever]

then we do change our minds and vote for Bush.

Who is "we"?

[TomasUSMC]

I remember a republican telling Hannity that:
The reason we can't get our judges through is because we have too many Rinos. At least ten republicans said they would not vote to change the filibuster rules. All we needed was 51. We have 51. But many are Rinos.

And more compassionate conservatism will bring in more Rinos. It basically comes down to the Pro Life Issue. If a judge is Pro Life, rinos will not support, even a republican appointment. More compassion means really much less compassion because compassion without courage in cowardliness.

[nopardons]

There, there, yes, yes, you jujst keepn right on listening to/reading the toe suckert and believeing every word he says.

You ask what hold the Ckintons would have over Kerry and Edwards. I gave you a funny/sarcastic answser. You swallowed the bait and believe little Dickie Morris' views.

The fact is, Rudy wants to be governor far more than just the JUNIOR Senator from N.Y. band he may even harbor a wish to become president. He isn't all that happy about Bloomy, so he might even think about being mayor again. At this point in time, no one, not even he, knows in which direction he's going to take, or if he'll take on another elected office at all.

The Clintons rule the DNC because they bring in money, McAwful is their enforcer.

[Doctor Stochastic]

It's interesting to watch Conservatives advocate supporting candidates who's main campaingn promises are to repeal Bush's tax cuts. I must assume that he support for Kerry really means these guys like Kerry's positions.

[nopardons]

Like a spoiled chikld, you're demanding what.........a WALL, or you'll bolt ? All or nothing demands get you NOTHING and usually in spades.

[Antoninus]

If Hillary gets the nomination though by a brokered convention this summer all the analysis changes and must be rethought.

Rethougth? Nothing would energize the conservative base more than Hitlery on the ticket. After all I've said here tonight, I'll admit that if my choice was between Hitlery and GWB, I'd be manning the phone banks and putting up signs for the president just to keep the witch out.

[tpaine]

Foul ball.

[BigSkyFreeper]

At least ten republicans said they would not vote to change the filibuster rules

Only ten? Just damn. The Democrats want the filibuster rules changed. Yeah, we needed 51, we had 51, the Democrats said the rules should change that we need 2/3 majority, yet the judges were still filibustered. The Democrats notoriously have never liked the rules, they're always trying to change the rules.

[Bernard Marx]

bump for later

[Texasforever]

Assuming Kevin gets his gridlock and the GOP maintains control of congress it would only last 2 years. Just long enough for the GOP to be perceived as obstructionist and Kerry calling for a congress that will "help him do the work of the people". "Gridlock" is a holding action at best and a potential disaster in the mid term elections for those doing the grid locking.

[Antoninus]

There, there, yes, yes, you jujst keepn right on listening to/reading the toe suckert and believeing every word he says.

Honestly, I had no idea Morris said that. If so, he's stealing my material.

In fact, I find the man odious and Toricelli-like. I can't stand the sight or sound of him.

[tpaine]

His sycophants--his ever-approving greek chorus--are next to worthless in terms of shaping the debate.
You know who you are.
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Well said bump.

[nopardons]

Then, when you find yourself thinking like him............. CHANGE YOUR MIND !

[Antoninus]

The Clintons rule the DNC because they bring in money, McAwful is their enforcer.

Uh, that's what I said. But once they're no longer at the top of the heap, their ability to draw in money will go down. A sitting president is always the top money raiser. It's axiomatic, I'm afraid.

[nopardons]

Exactly so, but it's little use attempting to force feed the UNAPPEASABLES actual facts. :-(

[Mo1]

Good gravy. Either debate the point, concede defeat, or move on

I have tried .. yet you still think it's okay to put a commie in office .. whether it be Kerry or Edwards

[TomasUSMC]

Some people say that there are Two truths. The Democrat base will support their party no matter what it does and the Republican base will abandon their party no matter what it does.

How about the Democratic Party will never abandon its base. No matter what the Democratic Party will not spend a cent, and not allow a word to be spoken for Pro-life. It will always be Pro-Abortion, always be Pro homosexual agenda, always be Pro Illegal Immigrant. Always.

Now the Gop well you could say the Gop will always be Pro Illegal Immigrant too.

So it is not the Base that abandons the Party. It is the Party that abandons the base.

In this country, at least since 1776,

It is not the responsibility of the people to represent the will of the President. It is the responsibility of the President to represent the will of the people.

The Republican Leadership continues to abandon US. In doing so, THEY abandon the White House.

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