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To: skip2myloo
Yes, I'm a strict constructionist, and yes I'm a conservative, just as I believe the Bible is literally true.

But....and I risk your calling me a liberal, if you're a name calling kind of guy.......I understand that sincere people can come up with different understanding of each of the two, both basing their opinions on what they see to be true.

There was a big war fought on those differences, as you well know.

What I object to is the lambasting from the far right of those of us who differ with their not-always-objective views.

I share your view that CFR violates the Constitution, intentionally or otherwise, but I do NOT share your view on the Patriot Act, which became necessary because the enemy is within our borders.

I'm really out of time here, skip. I shall seriously consider your views.......

(And I never for one moment thought that you were an anarchist. There are others who are......)

405 posted on 01/28/2004 8:54:07 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: ohioWfan
Good folks can have honest disagreemnt, but I'm not sure where we really disagree -- we've just been discussing nuances here, shades of the same color.

But truth and fact are different.

A fact is immutable, but, as you say, truth is in the eye of the beholder.

Some people's truths cause them to distort the facts.

You and I will just have to agree to disagree about the Patriot Act and Patriot Act II.

Our founding fathers had the wisdom to envision that our country could encounter serious threats on our own soil. In fact, they had recently concluded a serious war to expel an occupying army.

In our constituition, they created the framework and they gave us the tools we need to combat a hostile enemy within our borders.

Adhering to those principles we thrived for 225 years, through major wars and a cold war, enduring serious assaults and espionage directed against us.

We can still combat those threats and abide by our Constitutional principles.

We don't need no stinkin' Patriot Act.

408 posted on 01/28/2004 9:16:15 AM PST by skip2myloo
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