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Bush-Bashing Conservatives Should Focus on the Big Picture
GOPUSA.com ^ | Januray.26,2004 | Bobby Eberle

Posted on 01/26/2004 1:47:29 PM PST by Reagan Man

The 2004 campaign season is well at hand. Following the dramatic turn-around from earlier polling results, the strong showing by Senators John Kerry (D-MA) and John Edwards (D-NC) has brought renewed focus by the media on the possibilities of President Bush not only facing formidable opposition, but also losing his bid for reelection. A newly released Newsweek poll shows Kerry defeating President Bush if the election were held today. Of course, the poll is meaningless in the sense that President Bush has not yet begun to campaign, but it does add fuel to the fire that 2004 could be as close as the historic elections of 2000. With that in mind, it's time for conservatives across the country to focus on the big picture and realize that a Bush loss is far worse than a Bush victory.

The Newsweek poll garnering so much media attention shows Sen. Kerry defeating President Bush by 49%-46%. The result is understandable considering the endless attacks on President Bush by the Democrats challenging him for the White House. These attacks, levied during debates, stump speeches, and television commercials have largely gone unanswered by the president or the Republican Party. If the public is only getting one side of the story, then there should be no surprise when the president's numbers head south. The true test of public opinion will come once President Bush begins his campaign and America hears both sides of the story. Of course, the ultimate public opinion poll will be the 2004 presidential election itself.

In addition to the hits being taken by the president from the Democrats, President Bush has also sustained damage from those on his side of the political aisle: Republicans and conservatives who vote Republican. The anger expressed by conservatives toward President Bush is primarily focused on two issues: border security/immigration and federal spending.

President Bush's recent announcement of a "temporary worker" program has drawn harsh criticism from conservatives across the country. The volume of feedback I have received on this issue has been almost unanimously one-sided and in opposition to the president's plan -- a plan which conservatives feel is synonymous with "amnesty" for illegal immigrants. Under the Bush plan, illegal immigrants could apply for a 3-year temporary worker designation which would grant them legal status to remain in the U.S. provided they have employment or have a job waiting for them. In addition to the illegal immigrant being allowed to gain the benefits of residency in America, the worker's family would also be allowed to join the worker inside the U.S.

The other "stick in the eye" for conservatives is the massive increases in federal spending which have occurred over the past three years. Increases in the rate of growth of non-defense, discretionary spending in the current Bush administration are double that of the Clinton administration. Republicans have gone on a spending spree, and there appears to be no end in sight. Despite the fact that smaller, limited government is one of the tenets of conservative, Republican philosophy, congressional Republicans have shown over the last several years that they can spend with the best of them. To President Bush's credit, the budgets presented to the Congress by the administration have included modest increases in non-defense, discretionary spending by most observations. However, the budgets returned to the president for final approval have shown no restraint and are loaded with excess pork.

As a conservative, I share the philosophical concerns of friends and colleagues. Following the events of September 11, 2001, border security should be of the utmost concern, and promoting programs that not only potentially weaken security but also reward illegal behavior is just plain wrong. In addition, one of my core beliefs in which I identify myself as a conservative and as a Republican is my belief in smaller, limited government. If one of our core values is no longer being observed by our elected officials, then feelings of anger and betrayal are understandable and justified.

The key question going into the 2004 presidential election is "What is a conservative to do?"

The answer to this question is simple: conservatives must wake up and smell the coffee. The best choice for conservatives; the best candidate to advance our agenda; and the best person in which to put our hope and faith is President George W. Bush.

On the two previously mentioned issues of immigration policy and federal spending, conservatives only need to look at the alternatives to see that President Bush is the right person for the job. Regarding immigration policy, if Sen. Kerry were to become America's next president, there would be no need to debate the merits of granting legal status to a portion of illegal immigrants, because wide spread amnesty would be the policy of choice. Both Kerry and Edwards favor amnesty for illegal immigrants and would open the flood gates on America's already porous borders. According to campaign information, both Kerry and Edwards favor legalizing the status of illegal immigrants who have worked in the U.S. for a certain period of time.

The best hope for the immigration issue and border security is for conservatives to work diligently for President Bush's reelection and to demand sensible immigration reform from members of Congress. The real work on immigration will be done in Congress. Conservatives must push for meaningful reform, while working to ensure that the candidate who most closely shares our views wins in November. That person is President George W. Bush.

In regards to federal spending, one can only imagine the budgets that would be submitted by Kerry, Edwards, or Dean. A score card of liberal votes in Congress maintained by Americans for Democratic Action shows that Sen. Kerry actually has a more liberal voting record (93%-88%) than his Massachusetts counterpart: Sen. Ted Kennedy. Thus, a Kerry presidency means spending restraint by the Executive Branch goes right out the window. Conservatives have a right to be angry over spending, but the way to fight for our cause is to demand that our Republican legislators trim the pork. It is also up to us to push for presidential leadership in this area. We should support President Bush in his call for fiscal responsibility. We should also call on the president to unleash his veto pen if fiscal responsibility is not what he gets.

Much has been written in recent weeks in op-eds, letters to the editor, Internet discussion boards, and so on regarding conservative dissatisfaction with the current administration. The Bush administration should listen to their concerns, and the conservative community should work for positive solutions. Staying home on Election Day is not the answer. Voting for a third party candidate is not the answer. Writing in a protest vote is not the answer. Had just a small percentage of liberal voters stood with Al Gore in Florida rather than voting for Ralph Nader, the entire outcome of the 2000 presidential election could have been different. Conservatives cannot stay home in November. We must be on the ground working for President Bush and advancing our agenda in the process.

The conservative movement needs a voice, and it needs a leader. President Bush is that leader, and he has stood by conservatives on many of the issues we hold dear. The president is a stalwart on life issues and has been unwavering in his support of a ban on partial birth abortions. The president has been equally strong in putting forward judicial nominees who respect the Constitution and who will not legislate from the bench. The president is a leader in the war on terror, and I can think of no one better suited to occupy the oval office in this time of turmoil. The best way to fight for the conservative agenda is to fight for the reelection of President George W. Bush.

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Bobby Eberle is President and CEO of GOPUSA (www.GOPUSA.com), a news, information, and commentary company based in Houston, TX. He holds a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering from Rice University.


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To: Capitalist Eric
I can only assume by your silence that you let your emotion over ride self control. Maybe next time you will think twice about advocating the possibility of the death penalty for a sitting president based on a damned immigration proposal.
221 posted on 01/27/2004 1:19:54 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Dane
Alright, jerk, here we go with your empty attacks, based entirely in ignorance:

So you like the satus quo?

I don't remember saying that. Please post a link to my statement of this. If you can't do it, you're a liar.

Anyway it is up to congress to make the decision.

No kidding! Who would have guessed that I said that back in post #47??? But then, you did read that, right???

Clinton would have issued an executive order giving amnesty. I guess you think that is better.

I don't remember saying that. Please post a link to my statement of this. If you can't do it, you're a liar. Oh, and neither Clinton nor Bush dares to pass this as an EO. It would be political suicide.

BTW, IMO, you seem to be the kool-aid drinker with your distortion of the facts.

Post my "distortion of the facts, or admit you're a liar.

Also BTW, what is your plan to round 10 million. You may say round up 10,000 and they will go away on their own. No they won't.

I don't remember saying that. Please post a link to my statement of this. If you can't do it, you're a liar.

The reason they are here is to make a better life for themselves. Put pressure on Mexico to gets its economy in gear and they wouldn't be here, but you seem to be of the ilk that a twitch of the nose and poof they all are gone.

Do you have any data to support this claim, or is this just more flatulence? Given your obvious lack of knowledge concerning economics, it seems more flatuelence, than anything else. And don't worry, I won't hold my breath waiting for your citations to economic policy analyses supporting these BS conclusions of yours.

JMO, you are being simplistic, reactionary, and knee jerk.

You opinion- as clearly demonstrated- isn't worth anything.

Yada, yada, yada. If you think there are no differences between Bush and the demos, you are mistaken. I guess you would like to have the UN and Kofi Annan run US foreign policy, which would happen under a demo President. And I guess you like the tax hikes a demo would bring.

I don't remember saying that. Please post a link to my statement of this. If you can't do it, you're a liar.

But you keep on ranting endlessly Eric, that seems to be your strong suit.

I recall an expression about a pot, and a kettle...

As I stated before: I don't feel the need to restate myself over and over, for every bum who is too lazy to read the thread, and suddenly jumps on me because he can't be bothered to read.

Oh now playing the victim card. A democrat card.

You know, you have a real problem with facts. Look towards the top, something about policy being written in Congress, and my referring to that back in post #47, which you obviously were too lazy to read, before trying to put words in my mouth... So now, whenever someone says "don't go there, you'll make a fool of yourself," you automatically assume they're playing a democrat card? How stupid are you???

My words: If you try to harangue me from a foundation of ignorance, then I'll just ignore you- stupid people aren't worth my time.

Sure seems that you spend a lot time with yourself.

The moderators have asked me to be a little more kind to the mental midgets. They don't like it when I slap down some fool... Guys that can't find their anus with both hands, a flashlight and a set of written instructions annoy me, and I tend to be unkind with them.

Especially when I can easily demonstrate that they're just bloviating.

You're now DISMISSED.


222 posted on 01/27/2004 1:28:02 AM PST by Capitalist Eric (To be a liberal, one must be mentally deranged, or ignorant of reality.)
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To: Texasforever
You challenged me, on the question of treason.

I provided you an answer to your challenge.

It's now YOUR turn to answer my challenge. And I'm still waiting...

223 posted on 01/27/2004 1:29:36 AM PST by Capitalist Eric (To be a liberal, one must be mentally deranged, or ignorant of reality.)
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To: Texasforever
Maybe next time you will think twice about advocating the possibility of the death penalty for a sitting president based on a damned immigration proposal.

I don't remember saying that. Please post a link to my statement of this. If you can't do it, you're a liar.


224 posted on 01/27/2004 1:32:05 AM PST by Capitalist Eric (To be a liberal, one must be mentally deranged, or ignorant of reality.)
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To: Capitalist Eric
You're now DISMISSED.

JMO, but you are suffering with Wesley Clark syndrome with your hubris.

225 posted on 01/27/2004 1:33:46 AM PST by Dane
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To: Texasforever
Come on you little jerk. Back your charges up.

Any more FReepmails like the above will be construed as harassment.

And as I said, I played your game, I answered your challenge. It's your turn.

Don't worry, though... I won't hold my breath.

226 posted on 01/27/2004 1:37:20 AM PST by Capitalist Eric (To be a liberal, one must be mentally deranged, or ignorant of reality.)
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To: Capitalist Eric
It's now YOUR turn to answer my challenge. And I'm still waiting...

Should Bush be tried for treason and if found guilty be subject to capial punishmment?

227 posted on 01/27/2004 1:37:22 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Capitalist Eric
Any more FReepmails like the above will be construed as harassment.

Should Bush be subject to the death penalty for an immigration proposal?

228 posted on 01/27/2004 1:38:41 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Capitalist Eric
I don't remember saying that. Please post a link to my statement of this. If you can't do it, you're a liar.

You accused Bush of treason. That is a capital crime so, yes you did say that. Do you want to retract it now?

229 posted on 01/27/2004 1:42:16 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Capitalist Eric
Any more FReepmails like the above will be construed as harassment.

Poor baby. Should Bush be tried for treason?

230 posted on 01/27/2004 1:44:42 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Reagan Man
Some people say,"The best hope for the immigration issue and border security is for conservatives to work diligently for President Bush's reelection and to DEMAND sensible immigration reform from members of Congress."

We have been DEMANDING constantly for how many decades? What has demanding got us. Nada. Nofin. Nothing. We have demanded it from democrats and republicans. We have demanded it when we were in power and when we were not. We have even, even demanded it during a time of unprecedented terror in this country. We have demanded it during this War on Terror. Demanding has not and will not work - ever.

You see - you can't demand something if you can't answer the followup question. That question is and has been the same all these years, " Well what are you going to do if we still don't control the borders and deport the Illegals? Well? What are you going to do tough guy. You say your gonna demand, well go ahead and demand all day and all stinking night, and all week and all year because -

What are you conservatives going to do about it? What?

Well guess what? We the conservatives have decided that we are Now going to back up our demands with action. Look at the polls if you don't believe U.S. El Presidente is now losing to Kerry if he is nominated. This drop did not happen out of coincidence.
Mr. President Bush, if you don't stop with the amnesty, then you will not stop with your drop in the polls.

We are finished demanding, we are now acting, we will not vote for George Bush for President until he rescinds the Amnesty Plan. Period.

Guess what GOP, now you can do the demanding. This time we are the ones that will ask the question?

What are you going to do about it GOP, what?
231 posted on 01/27/2004 1:45:39 AM PST by TomasUSMC (from tomasUSMC FIGHT FOR THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Texasforever

(((yawn...)))

I won't allow myself to be dragged into your asinine argument. It may work with your ankle-biters, to lure someone into a false debate, based on something that you claim was said? That's like debating the local gossip, the he-said, she-said idiocy that passes for social discussion in a little podunk town... What makes you think any of the rest of us are so stupid as to play your game???

And how is it, that you seem incapable of answering my challenge? Is it because the answer is a pill too bitter to swallow???

Hmmmmmm?

Still waiting...
232 posted on 01/27/2004 1:47:08 AM PST by Capitalist Eric (To be a liberal, one must be mentally deranged, or ignorant of reality.)
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To: Capitalist Eric
We can pick this up later. I am sure after you give this some thought you will see how ridiculous your charge of treason really is.
233 posted on 01/27/2004 1:49:05 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: TomasUSMC
We are finished demanding, we are now acting, we will not vote for George Bush for President until he rescinds the Amnesty Plan. Period

Do you think you are the Queen of England or something with your use of the royal "we".

BTW, would you rather have a demo who would actually put through amnesty.

I surmise you do with your above rant, but I am not surprised since, IMO, a person like you who depends on pure emotion rather than thinking is prone to using rants.

234 posted on 01/27/2004 1:50:09 AM PST by Dane
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To: TomasUSMC
You might be a jar-head, but your words are on the money.

I agree completely.

Be well...

235 posted on 01/27/2004 1:50:12 AM PST by Capitalist Eric (To be a liberal, one must be mentally deranged, or ignorant of reality.)
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To: Capitalist Eric
It isn't me making the asinine argument that an immigration proposal should be punishable by death. You are in a round room looking for a corner and are now reduced to semantic games. As I said, you let your emotions overcome common sense but that is fairly typical for you.
236 posted on 01/27/2004 1:53:02 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: TomasUSMC; Texasforever; Dane
BTW, Tomas-

texasforever and dane are two dyed-in-the-wool kool-aide-drinking sheeple.

Dane is long on the hot air, and short on the fact. Take a look at my "adjustment" of him at post #222, if you have any doubts.

Texas...? well, he's about the same as dane. though, instead of exclusively trying to put words into your mouth, texas tries the rope-a-dope strategy, pulling you into a BS discussion that has no bearing on... anything. texas is quite consistent about this, from what I've seen of his posts over the last few weeks... and he tends to get angry when you point out his inconsistencies and lies.

They're just a couple more lemmings...

Be well.

237 posted on 01/27/2004 1:57:11 AM PST by Capitalist Eric (To be a liberal, one must be mentally deranged, or ignorant of reality.)
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To: motzman
Some people say that If Republicans and conservatives don't understand or refuse to admit that the only way to defeat "liberalism" is incrementally, we're doomed.
I disagree. Abortion did not come about incrementally, it came about in one day at the Supreme Court. 3000 innocent babies are murdered every single day in this country. Is that incremental. Should we bide our time while 3000 die every single day?
In one day El Presidente has blessed another 10 million illegal invaders in this country with legitimacy. In one day. Is that Incremental. Should we take our time about trying to reverse his course on that.

When you are sick do you ever go to the doctor and ask him to get you better slowly. Incrementalism is the slow spreading plague of Islam infesting this country, and it is being helped by our Presidente calling it a religion of Peace. Should we take our time to correct this.

Some out there may be fooled into the incrementalist mindset, as for me and mine we will stand our ground and fight.
238 posted on 01/27/2004 1:57:54 AM PST by TomasUSMC (from tomasUSMC FIGHT FOR THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Texasforever
It isn't me making the asinine argument that an immigration proposal should be punishable by death.

LINK TO MY POST SAYING THIS? OR ARE YOU JUST LYING AGAIN????


239 posted on 01/27/2004 1:58:52 AM PST by Capitalist Eric (To be a liberal, one must be mentally deranged, or ignorant of reality.)
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To: Texasforever
Make the electorate conservative and the government will become conservative.

The mob and the demagogue will triumph in the end. But Reagan held them back for a while.

240 posted on 01/27/2004 2:00:18 AM PST by Allan
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