[Modernman]

You don't think the American culture and penchant for liberty, the solemn dignity of our Constitution, and the reverence of our ancestors is worth keeping?

Very few of us can actually track our ancestors back to the original colonies, so I'm not sure that's a relevant point.

An appreciation of American culture, liberty and the Constitution is not a genetic trait. Native-born Americans used to think that Catholics couldn't be loyal Americans because their true allegiance was to the Pope. Anyone can be assimilated into believing in American values, whether they came here legally or illegally. We just haven't been putting enough emphasise on assimilation.

All the other stuff, like preferences in food, ethnic origin or America's favorite sport, change over time and have little, if nothing, to do with American culture. To quote the Sopranos: "Until Italians got here, Americans knew s**t about food."

And, anyway, I like tan women.

[hedgetrimmer]

Anyone can be assimilated into believing in American values, whether they came here legally or illegally.

Not just anyone.

But do you know what a hometown club is? It is a club funded by the governments of the southern countries, mostly mexico, whose goal is to keep people from assimilating, to keep their allegiance to their home country. Now make these people legal and give them the right to vote and do you think they'll vote to protect your rights? and to uphold traditional america values?

Right now there are thousands of hometown clubs all over the country and their goals are subversive to the American way.