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To: exmarine
Bush does what he can, when he can. I'm not going to argue in favor of his policies that I disagreed with, just in favor of his overall performance. For the most part, he caves in to congress routinely, but is still anti-affirmative action, at least for the most part. The Michigan case was not a total defeat, since it did reduce the level of affirmative action, even if it did uphold it partially. And you ought to know that Bush, or ANY president, isn't going to condemn an entire religion. What the hell are you thinking? Right or wrong, this ain't gonna happen. Ok, he praised a gay church. Should he have? No. But no president is going to stand outside a church with a "die fags, die" sign, so maybe he should just have ignored it. This doesn't make him pro-gay, it just makes him more tolerant than I am of anti-natural behavior. He has said on many occasions that he would veto a gay marriage bill, and supports the idea of a man and a woman defining a marriage, only. And yes, his court nominees, at least all of the ones that I read about, were conservative. So, you want a constitutional amendment against abortion? So do I. Now, just try making it happen. Bush isn't superman, and can't get the votes for it, and neither can anyone else. Remember how many votes it takes to get one passed? Now run those numbers with the pro vs anti-abortion numbers, and check your results. I too wish he'd use that veto pen, but he obviously lets congress pretty much have it their way. That's not a good enough reason to either impeach him, or to let President Clark and Vice President Clinton run the country. Also: I thought everyone knew that Marines weren't soldiers, but apparently this is a common misconception. Soldiers don't have those threads in their heads to screw the jar lid on. Or anyway, that's what my old Chief Petty Officer used to tell us when I was in the Navy.
270 posted on 01/13/2004 9:26:49 AM PST by jim35
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To: jim35
For the most part, he caves in to congress routinely, but is still anti-affirmative action, at least for the most part. The Michigan case was not a total defeat, since it did reduce the level of affirmative action, even if it did uphold it partially.

You may think that compromise on truth is okay, I don't. Either affirmative action is wrong or it isn't. There is no in between. I don't like compromisers.

And you ought to know that Bush, or ANY president, isn't going to condemn an entire religion. What the hell are you thinking? Right or wrong, this ain't gonna happen.

I expect Bush to tell the truth. He is not theologian in chief and should SHUT UP about Islam being peace and worshpping the same God. This is contrary to Bush's professed faith.

Ok, he praised a gay church. Should he have? No. But no president is going to stand outside a church with a "die fags, die" sign, so maybe he should just have ignored it.

No one want anyone to die, but to praise a church that flouts immorality and represents destruction of marriage, is simply morally egregious for a man who claims to be a Christian and leader of the country with a judeo-christian roots. Bush speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He says in one breath that he will defend marriage, in the next breath, he praises a gay church! There is no excuse for this! It stinks! Stop making excuses.

This doesn't make him pro-gay, it just makes him more tolerant than I am of anti-natural behavior.

Wrong. "Tolerance" requires disagreement. Bush PRAISED the church. Praise connotes agreement! I think Americans need to get a dictionary and look up the defintion of tolerance. The NEW definition of tolerance is nothing more than "forced acceptance" - tolerance is NOT a virtue.

Bush isn't superman, and can't get the votes for it, and neither can anyone else. Remember how many votes it takes to get one passed? Now run those numbers with the pro vs anti-abortion numbers, and check your results. I too wish he'd use that veto pen, but he obviously lets congress pretty much have it their way.

Bush doesn't fight. He's a wimp when it comes to liberals, democrats, gays, and anyone else. The entire GOP are a bunch of spineless jellyfish. The rub elbows with those EVIL democrats (yes, I said EVIL!) as if they are drinking buddies or something. If I were AG, I would not enforce any law that was contrary to GOD'S ETERNAL LAWS. This is a sin. If Ashcroft or Bush had any guts, which they don't, they would refuse to enforce abortion laws. What are the courts going to do about it if they don't? Let's try it and see! Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional!

303 posted on 01/13/2004 9:44:19 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: jim35
Have you read or heard Mr. Bush's remarks in Monterrey Mexico at the Summit of the Americas this week?

Please read up on what he is saying, what the Summit of the Americans is, and what the OAS is. You think it has nothing to do with us because it is outside this country, but in the last few weeks, the policy on illegal alien social security and illegal alien amnesty were both announced by the whitehouse. The origin of these policies? the 1998 summit of the Americas, where the United States go a directive, thats an order, to make social security available to illegals and to give them greater access to our country.

Now, think outside the box. This presidency and the last is a reflection of a change to the control of supranational organizations. It doesn't matter what the people of America thinks about immigration, because if it did there would be every politician in washington apologizing for the proposal. Instead they are down in Mexico, addressing the "citizens of the world" and busily reporting that they are implementing the directives of this socialist organization as quickly as possible.


The Prime minister of Canada said it in French and English-- we must 'redefine' sovereignty in the name of the Summit of the Americas.
306 posted on 01/13/2004 9:45:56 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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