[lentulusgracchus]

.....even a broken watch is right twice a day and when Savage says "This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime", I agree with him on that.

May I disagree? Clinton and his deal with Jiang Zemin was the worst. That's the deal that traded Loral's technology to the PLA and "the three no's" for reptile money that Slick needed to do his below-the-radar polling work in 1995 that he used to beat Bob Dole before the primaries began, by "bracketing" Dole with Gingrich in the key markets and demographics (family women) by lambasting Dole as the Congressional running mate of the "mean" Gingrich. Remember that? John Huang, Charlie Trie, Johnny Chung and Pauline Kanchanalak? The Riady family? That was the worst.

[steve50]

May I disagree? Clinton and his deal with Jiang Zemin was the worst. That's the deal that traded Loral's technology to the PLA

You might be surprised if you looked into the lobbyist outfit that Loral used.