Just like I can say that you are a liberal troll if you think Bush should be impeached. See how that works? There is nothing "logical" about this "debate". This is a fist fight. This is the predictable influx of the same damn unnapeasables that hit this site EVERY election cycle. There is no debate or changing of minds, there is just the same damned clack of contrarians and JBS disciples that wake up every election cycle and accuse the GOP and George Bush of everything under the sun right up to and including treason. I play with them and yes I jab them in the eye because they leave NO room for compromise and they came here for a fight and then act surprised when the find one. I have violated the Lead Moderator's desire for civility on the immigration threads and I should be a bigger man but when I get my blood up I am going to say what I think.