[CCWoody]

Perhaps you are catching ctd's disease. You haven't answered this question:

If sinful man doesn't even know what he needs, then how is it possible for him to seek what he needs in a sincere and faithful heart without there first being a change in his nature so that he can see what he needs?

BTW, if you want to whine to the mods and get that "chapter of 'Calvinists in the Hands of an Angry Mod'" opened then be my guest. It is the modus operandi (sp) of Arminians when they make themselves look like fools with the things they say and want to get the thread shut down.

Woody.

[CCWoody]

This little whine of mine
I'm gonna make it howl.
This little whine of mine
I'm gonna make it howl...
make it howl...
make it howl...

[Corin Stormhands]

I have answered your question. You just don't understand it.

I'm not whining to anyone. Just waiting for you guys to go ballistic again. You don't need my help for that.

(although it does happen faster when Poop Pile is around)

[xzins]

Can you give me a verse that balances with Rom 2:14b when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them

Can you give me a verse that balances with a sinner's natural ability to do lawful things according to the accusatory conscience given him by God that says a sinner has no idea what his need is?"

I'm trying to remember. Is "a sinner has no idea what his need is" a bible verse? Serious question. Is that in there somewhere (or something remarkably close to it)?