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To: LeGrande
"So you are saying that tobacco predates opiates in the European (Pilgrim) societies?

Now where did you get that from my statement?

Tobacco has been part of the American culture since before there was an America. Opiates were never part of the American culture.

132 posted on 01/05/2004 2:25:04 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
So you are saying that tobacco predates opiates in the European (Pilgrim) societies?

"Now where did you get that from my statement?

Tobacco has been part of the American culture since before there was an America. Opiates were never part of the American culture."

I got it from this statement of yours.

"No, nothing sinister. Alcohol and tobacco have been a part our culture since the Pilgrims landed.

Cocaine and heroin, marijuana, PCP, LSD, methamphetamine, and all the other recreational drugs have not. When they did surface, like marijuana or opium, they were part of the sub-culture.

Anyone with just a modicum of education knows that opiates (snuff, heroin, etc) had been used by the Europeans for 100's of years before the new world and tobacco and coca were discovered.

The only way your statement makes sense is if you think that our "culture" is based on some Indian pipe smoking tribal culture and not the European culture that all of our laws are based on.

Is that the best you can do to defend Tobbaco and Alchohol? And the war on the lesser drugs? How sad that truth and freedom mean so little to you : (

133 posted on 01/05/2004 3:03:55 PM PST by LeGrande
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