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Posted on 01/02/2004 10:07:44 AM PST by Fred Kevlin
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Well, the wife and I are going out for Sushi so you play nice with them. See you later and thanks for the pictures; I can actually say that I found something worthwhile and interesting on one of leroys dope threads for once.
To: Fred Kevlin; CWOJackson
Oh, how I wish we could have a reasoned discussion about this issue. Reasonable people can disagree on this -- it's pretty unquestionable that both drugs and the war on drugs are destructive. Principled people can come down on either side of this issue without being dopers or statists. Kumbayaaaaaaaa...... /self-righteous rant
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posted on
01/02/2004 1:06:25 PM PST
by
ellery
To: CWOJackson
Have a good meal. Later!
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posted on
01/02/2004 1:09:24 PM PST
by
AxelPaulsenJr
(Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
To: ellery
Me too, but I don't think the ones labeled 'statist' are capable of being reasonable.
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posted on
01/02/2004 1:20:15 PM PST
by
KEVLAR
To: clamper1797
Re Post #107 ... things are looking upYup, that pic has that effect on me.
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posted on
01/02/2004 1:29:05 PM PST
by
AxelPaulsenJr
(Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
To: KEVLAR
You've nailed it with your statement regarding "statist(s)."
For the record: I've never smoked marijuana, though I twice had it in brownies, once knowingly and once unknowingly. Years ago I did take amphetamines (Candy of the Gods), and have reaped the results: High blood pressure and a mild stroke due to same. Therefore, I know that unprescribed drug use is destructive to the individual just as the War on Drugs is destructive to the nation.
The bottom line, though, can be found by answering the following question with a simple "yes" or "no": In an allegedly free country should an individual be allowed to ingest what he or she desires as long as he or she is not in any manner harming another individual? Sociology be damned, it really comes down to a matter of level of personal freedom Americans are allowed, or may be expected, to enjoy.
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posted on
01/03/2004 6:19:02 AM PST
by
NCPAC
To: NCPAC
To your question - YES
The war on drugs has changed the nature of our law enforcement IMO. The result from what I can see is a general distrust of LE by the public. When our police are reduced to fishing for any violation simply to increase revenues and add to their arrest/citation tally, they are no longer "keeping the peace".
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posted on
01/03/2004 7:29:15 AM PST
by
KEVLAR
To: KEVLAR
Bingo! In my not so humble opinion, the only correct answer that anyone who claims to believe in individual freedom can possibly provide to my question is "Yes." Any other answer and the respondent does not believe in individual freedom. It really is as simple as that.
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posted on
01/03/2004 1:38:41 PM PST
by
NCPAC
To: ellery; CWOJackson; AxelPaulsenJr
Oh, how I wish we could have a reasoned discussion about this issue.Seek out a thread with robertpaulsen holding down the fort for the pro-WOD gang. He's intelligent, civil, and actually makes good arguments for his side. Jackson and Axel are admitted trolls on these threads. I gave up trying to have intelligent WOD discussions with them long ago.
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posted on
01/04/2004 7:29:48 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
To: jmc813
I gave up trying to have intelligent WOD discussions with them long ago....Prerequisite: intelligence!
Get some troll-be-gone, sprinkle on all parts, then say a prayer. Stay away from kitchen sinks, with stoves nearby! Ignore crotchety ole' bigots!
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posted on
01/04/2004 9:57:33 AM PST
by
pageonetoo
(Rights, what Rights'. You're kidding, right?)
To: jmc813
There's nothing "intelligent" about the desire to legalize dope.
To: CWOJackson
Is there anything intelligent about raising concerns about the Constitutionality of certain drug laws?
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posted on
01/04/2004 6:57:00 PM PST
by
jmc813
(Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
To: pageonetoo
"Prerequisite: intelligence!"
Attempting to discuss something way outside your realm of understanding. Nothing new there.
To: jmc813
Those concerns are shared by a very small fringe of people. So?
To: Fred Kevlin
For example, on Dec. 8, the House of Representatives passed a bill that gives the White House drug czars office $145,000,000 of taxpayer money to run anti-marijuana propaganda ads.
Wow, what a great use of taxpayer funds. The government needs to spend $145,000,000 to tell us pot is bad for you? Hell, I work in marketing. Give me 1/10 that and I'll disseminate that message to everybody.
What a joke. Guess I should bite my tongue, since it's my party that passes this bill, blind partisanship being what it is and all.
To: CWOJackson
There's nothing "intelligent" about the desire to legalize dope.
That's debateable. Which is the point of course, of these threads. It's too bad you decide to not even show up for the debate.
Since you've obviously made up your mind, have shown you can't be swayed, and have made it clear you're not interested in debating, why do you even bother?
And yes, this is a rhetorical question, because I know what your follow-up will be like.
To: Conservative til I die
"That's debateable. Which is the point of course, of these threads."
And that would be the reason why these end up in the smokey backroom where they belong.
To: CWOJackson
And that would be the reason why these end up in the smokey backroom where they belong. You ensure they go there on purpose. Come on---you might as well give yourself a big round of applause. It's what you do best on Free Republic: ensure anti-Drug War threads get pushed to the back.
To: CWOJackson
Those concerns are shared by a very small fringe of people.Such as the owner of this forum.
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posted on
01/05/2004 6:34:54 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
To: jmc813
Jackson and Axel are admitted trolls on these threads. I gave up trying to have intelligent WOD discussions with them long ago.Is this from you jmc? About me? I thought you liked me, well, well, the truth does come out.
Oh well!
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posted on
01/05/2004 6:46:43 AM PST
by
AxelPaulsenJr
(Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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