Posted on 12/15/2003 11:16:07 PM PST by B4Ranch
I don't understand the move to the backroom either. I thought that was reserved for when a thread got too heated to be rated G or PG any more. I don't see that on this thread although I have on occasion seen the immigration threads get a little carried away. Perhaps the moderator can answer that question.
This can be evidenced even on this forum. When a warning is issued, the same guys rush to the thread to make fun of the entire homeland security terror warnings, etc. They are more worried that they might lose a right than they are about our security.
If the American people would get angry enough, and take this seriously enough in great numbers, THEN whoever is in office would do something. Until then, it will stay status quo.
The dims want the borders open because of the fact that the immigrants generally vote democratic, and because they are so brainwashed that we are a "global community" and to be nationalist is evil.
The Pubbies know that if they even think about trying to get real tough , the outcry will be deafening from the left, and frankly, they most likely feel our borders are so long it is nearly impossible to keep them from coming across.
The INS was almost totally rendered useless during the Clinton administration, and we all know why. Now Homeland security is playing catchup trying to even find out who is here illegally much less where they are. And frankly, politics enter into the equation with the pubbies also, because they also want to get elected, naturally.
Sorry for the length, but I do think it is important to realize that it is up to the people in this country to get serious enough about the illegal alien crisis we have to get the politicians to move off their PC butts and do something. They will have to feel their positions are in danger if they do not. Until then, we are just sitting ducks, no matter who is in office, although, history will tell us the dims are much worse on this issue.
Wealthy politicians do seem to carry the burden of having to "open the books" to the public, where others don't.
Of course, in my opinion, anyone who is wealthy and runs for office is just looking for the ultimate "power over the people" rush.
"All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree."
-- James Madison in The Federalist
"Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
-- John Adams, letter to John Taylor, April 15, 1814
I think the suicidal days are upon us. Refusing to admit the illness will result in our death as a democracy.
To close the borders because of a terrorist attack will not contain the preoccupation with socialist fantasy, i.e. progressive Dream Programs that are currently underway.
List of All of the Subjects Covered Under Agenda 21s All Encompassing Hooks
Management of Solid Waste,
Management of Radioactive Wastes,
Strengthening the Role of Major Groups,
Global Action for Women,
Children and Youth in Sustainable Development,
Indigenous People,
NGO Partners,
Local Authorities Initiatives in support of Agenda 21,
Strengthening Workers and Trade Unions,
The Role of Business Industry,
Scientific Technological communities,
The Role of Farmers,
Financial Resources Mechanisms,
Transfer of Technology,
Science for Sustainable Development,
Promoting Education Training,
National Mechanisms International Cooperation,
International Institutional Arrangements,
International Legal Mechanisms,
International Cooperation,
Combating Poverty,
Changing Consumption Patterns,
Demographics & sustainability,
Protecting Human Health, Human Settlements,
Integrating Environment and development in decision-making,
Protection of the Atmosphere,
Planning and Management of Land Resources,
Combating Deforestation,
Desertification Drought,
Sustainable Mountain Development,
Sustainable Agriculture,
Conservation of Biological Diversity,
Management of Biotechnology,
Protection of the Oceans,
Management and use of Water Resources,
Management of Toxic Chemicals,
Management of Hazardous Wastes.
Well, judging from the replies, at least you've got good company.
Created: Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 17:21:06 EST
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Sir, This may just be the issue that boots your ass our the door in 2004!
I wasn't jumping on anyone for being rich. I was responding to part of what you said in Post 30.
"It could be "favors" are owed or even a little blackmailing going on. My deepest suspicion has to do with cold hard cash. The RNC was bragging about how Bushs' re-election campaign funds are spilling out of the bucket. I don't recall how many millions he has available but theres quite a few. So, are corporations donating to the fund in order to get their names onto the Iraq contact list?"The article I referred to was about the connections the Bush family has to wealthy ("cold hard cash") businessmen, a lot of them Mexican nationals. That could be where some of Bush's contributions are coming from. It could also explain Bush's non-action when it comes to Mexico. Maybe it's his family ties to old or current business partners that keeps him from doing what I believe he should do, which is to close the borders.
Anyway, it was just a thought (or a bit of a little conspiracy theory).
Gee, you mean pointing your finger, jumping up and down, and screaming "racist" isn't discussion? /sarcasm.
I don't want the "stand in line" sheeples, I'm looking for people who will fight to stand at the front. They are the only ones who will make the effort to educate the ignorant. Being afraid that you might lose a few 'friends' for speaking your mind is considered too great a risk for too many on this website. I'll follow the crowd, eunuch and coward come to mind very frequently when reading their posts.
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