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DEFAMATION -- LIBEL AND SLANDER [Florida Law - FReepers Heed]
Florida Bar Association ^
Posted on 10/24/2003 10:14:40 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
Edited on 10/24/2003 12:02:17 PM PDT by Lead Moderator.
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To: exmarine
First. My statement that repeated publication of a false statement can be defamation is exactly correct. You can call it BS all you want, but don't rely on that for your defense, cause it ain't one.
Second, if it is evil, you should follow your own advice and call it that. For example, stating that a judge took a bribe when you have zero knowledge that it has occurred would obviously be "bearing false witness," would it not?
Third, as far as your moral comparison goes, I have an easy time distinguishing between a doctor who kills a person and a doctor who stops trying to save a person. If there were no such difference, we'd have a CPR marathon going on all over the country with no end in sight.
661
posted on
10/24/2003 2:23:31 PM PDT
by
lugsoul
(And I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside)
To: honeygrl
You do realize that atleast half (if not much more than that) of the people posting on this thread don't even post the the Schiavo threads, right?No, I didn't realize that. How would I go about verifying that?
To: stands2reason
Yes, I agree, "The plaintiff has the burden of proof, not the defendant."
and he "would would have to prove that X was in fact a murderer"
To: F.J. Mitchell; RJayneJ
That 2000 election will gaul all democrats, eternally. They never had an election unstolen on them before.
325 posted on 10/24/2003 3:28 PM EDT by F.J. Mitchell (The war on drugs is a tax-payer financed affirmative action program for drug dealers.)
Bump!
664
posted on
10/24/2003 2:24:02 PM PDT
by
Ragtime Cowgirl
("2 years: tyrannies defeated, nations rescued, millions of people liberated..46 mill." Rummy, 10/10)
To: Jim Robinson
conservative principles and the elimination of government corruption and abuse. This is a news and information site not a chat room. OK. Scratch the "chat" part of my last post. LOl. No chatting. Got it!
665
posted on
10/24/2003 2:24:08 PM PDT
by
concerned about politics
( Have you donated to the Salvation Army? Liberals HATE Christian organizations! Tax deductable, too)
To: Chancellor Palpatine
your deposition would go like this - thanks for reminding me of a mind-numbing experience.
666
posted on
10/24/2003 2:24:20 PM PDT
by
Catspaw
To: Calpernia
The post I was making gets to both liability and damages - people spreading wild statements on the internet as fact without checking them out or having firsthand knowlege, followed by phone calls, emails and faxes (many of which were based on or even contained portions of those wild tales) to the governor and legislators of Florida, who used that information to act in a manner contrary to the legal rights and interests of Michael Schiavo. That doesn't even mention the effect of the bad info bandied about regarding Felos, Greer, experts, conspiracies, UFOs and the Devil's Triangle.
To: Grando Calrissian
"The bottle ain't to blame and I ain't trying to. It don't make you do a thing, it just lets you."
- Mike Cooley
668
posted on
10/24/2003 2:25:16 PM PDT
by
lugsoul
(And I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside)
To: ambrose
Where are you? You're sorely missed!
669
posted on
10/24/2003 2:25:22 PM PDT
by
onyx
To: lugsoul
Third, as far as your moral comparison goes, I have an easy time distinguishing between a doctor who kills a person and a doctor who stops trying to save a person. If there were no such difference, we'd have a CPR marathon going on all over the country with no end in sight. Removing a feeding tube is not "letting someone day" - it is FACILITATING that death. Without removal of the tube, the person would live. Personally, I am disgusted by all of the people who believe that starving that poor woman to death is all right.
To: Warren_Piece
Guess my problem is that I wasn't involved in those threads (by choice!). After the Recall, I had enough flame wars to last for a long time.
When I came to this thread, it just seemed obvious that this was something we should consider when posting. Like others have stated, the DemocRATs would love to shut this forum down and you can bet so would the ACLU, and I figure why take a chance -- make responsible posts and not have to worry! I have used IMO or IMHO a lot -- seems like a safe bet to me!
Didn't come on here with any preconceived ideas of what side anyone was on -- now I am really glad that I stayed away from those threads except to say that what was said about Jeb was wrong and that was after he signed the order.
671
posted on
10/24/2003 2:26:35 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(AOII Mom -- Don't forget to Visit/donate at http://www.georgewbush.com)
To: habs4ever
You've never once had a single insightful or cogent point. Everything you write is consumed with intense hatred and meanness. I have told you by Freepmail that we have utterly nothing to say to one another. Please do not post to me again.
672
posted on
10/24/2003 2:27:41 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
To: lugsoul
First. My statement that repeated publication of a false statement can be defamation is exactly correct. You can call it BS all you want, but don't rely on that for your defense, cause it ain't one. Actually, I don't give a flip about this quibble. You may be right, I really don't care.
Second, if it is evil, you should follow your own advice and call it that. For example, stating that a judge took a bribe when you have zero knowledge that it has occurred would obviously be "bearing false witness," would it not?
Starving that woman to death is evil. Period. Sue me.
To: IncPen
Are you - or were you - Al Haig?
To: wimpycat
What, are you taking a poll of some sort? Given the assertions made on the thread, I think it's a fair question, under the circumstances.
Are you Palpatine's footman?
675
posted on
10/24/2003 2:28:04 PM PDT
by
IncPen
To: Chancellor Palpatine
A quick look at TOS shows your post is giving them erections.
To: concerned about politics
Everyone is posting their thoughts. That's what the disclamer says. I'm not advocating slash and burning other thoughts. Heck, you'd probably get banned, but thoughts are the opinions of the posters. This is a member conversation. If you wish to join in, it's your option. If you don't like the thoughts and opinions posted, don't read them. You come here volentarily. It's private - for members only. Ok, I'm not even entirely sure what you're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand you to be saying that every single post on FR is opinion, and thus not subject to a defamation lawsuit. That couldn't be more wrong.
Suppose you were to post something to the effect of "I saw Bill Clinton shoot 15 old ladies yesterday." You would be making an assertion of fact, not an opinion. Clinton could then (sadly) sue you for defamation. Suppose it got picked up by Fox news and reported as "FR poster 'concerned about politics' reported on the FR website today that he saw Bill Clinton shoot 15 old ladies yesterday." They would be reporting that you made an assertion of fact. The disclaimer about everyone's opinions being their own will not save you. Do you get it now.
677
posted on
10/24/2003 2:29:00 PM PDT
by
olorin
To: exmarine
"Removing a feeding tube is not "letting someone day" - it is FACILITATING that death. Without removal of the tube, the person would live."
Removing a [heat/lung machine] is not "letting someone day" - it is FACILITATING that death. Without removal of the [machine], the person would live.
Same thing.
678
posted on
10/24/2003 2:29:24 PM PDT
by
lugsoul
(And I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside)
To: R. Scott
They cant think of what to say, so they lash out with emotion. There are many times I have written something five and six times before posting for that very reason. First reactions may not be what you want posted.
679
posted on
10/24/2003 2:29:34 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(AOII Mom -- Don't forget to Visit/donate at http://www.georgewbush.com)
To: Bob J
It seems he's still offering pro bono legal advice, but to a larger group now. (the whole forum) :)
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