[tpaine]

betty boop:
JimRob is absolutely right: The Left does want to destroy the Constitution. It is a crystalization of a theory of
man and of values that the Left despises. Unfortunately, I think that Plato was right: even the "best constitution" cannot suffice to maintain a decent, just social order for a people who hold virtue in contempt.

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So true. So true.
1,091 -AG-

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In effect, the belief that we ~must~ control mans "virtue" is one if the prime reasons that even the "best constitution" cannot suffice to maintain a decent, just social order.

History shows that mandating virtue through prohibitionary laws foster contempt for social order.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for your post!

History shows that mandating virtue through prohibitionary laws foster contempt for social order.

Do you have source references for this statement?

[betty boop]

History shows that mandating virtue through prohibitionary laws foster[s] contempt for social order.

A-G wants to see your primary sources for this observation, and I think that would be most helpful and useful.

But at the end of the day, tpaine, I suspect there is simply something wrong with your theory, and the problem is not with evidence. For the very simple reason that virtue may not be compelled (or bribed) in principle. The contempt that your observation arouses in me, however, is not directed towards the "social order." Probably the social order is still firing on most, if not all, cylinders. My personal animus tends to get directed towards the people who think they run the social order.

I'm sure you catch the distinction.