The mind is its own place, and in itself
Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.
What matter where, if I be still the same,
And what I should be, all but less than he
Whom thunder hath made greater?
Libertarians and conservatives have fought like cats and dogs from day one around here. When we got so big that mods had to stop the flame wars some people decided they'd rather be in hell instead. Now they are.