Posted on 04/17/2006 8:40:37 AM PDT by jveritas
Document ISGP-2003-0001498 ISGP-2003-0001498 contains a 9 pages TOP SECRET memo (pages 87-96 in the pdf document) dated March 16 2003 that talks about transferring “SPECIAL AMMUNITION” from one ammunition depot in Najaf to other ammunition depots near Baghdad. As we know by now the term SPECIAL AMMUNITION was used by Saddam Regime to designate CHEMICAL WEAPONS as another translated document has already shown. For example in document CMPC 2004-002219 where Saddam regime decided to use “CHEMICAL WEAPONS against the Kurds” they used the term “SPECIAL AMMUNITION” for chemical weapon http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1601810/posts. What is also interesting is that these “SPECIAL AMMUNITION” were listed as 122 mm, 130 mm, and 155 mm caliber shells which are not by itself SPECIAL unless it contain CHEMICAL WEAPONS. In fact the Iraqi have always used 122 mm, 130 mm, and 155 mm caliber shell as a main delivery tool for Chemical Weapons Agents by filling these type of shells with Nerve Gas, Sarin, Racin, Mustard gas and other Chemical Agents.
Beginning of partial translation of Pages 85-96 in document ISGP-2003-0001498
In the Name of God the Merciful The Compassionate
Top Secret
Ministry Of Defense
Chairmanship of the Army Staff
Al Mira Department
No. 4/17/ammunition/249
Date 16 March 2003
To: The Command of the Western Region
Subject: Transfer of Ammunitions
The secret and immediate letter of the Chairmanship of the Army Staff 4/17/308 on 10 March 2003
1. The approval of the Army Chief of Staff was obtained to transfer THE SPECIAL AMMUNITIONS in the ammunition depots group of Najaf and according to the following priorities:
A. The first priority
First. Ammunition (122 mm)
Second. Ammunition (130 mm)
Third. Ammunition (155 mm)
To the depots and storage of the Second Corp and the two ammunition depot groups Dijla/2/3
B. Second priority.
First. Ammunition (23 mm)
Second. Ammunition (14.5 mm)
To the ammunition depots of the air defense and distributed to the ammunition depot groups in (Al Mussayeb- Al Sobra- Saad).
2. To execute the order of the Chief Army Staff indicated in section (1) above, we relate the following:
A. Duty
Transfer of the ammunitions shown in sections (A) and (B) from the ammunitions depots of Najaf to the ammunition depots in (Dijla 2/3, and Al Mansor, and Saad, and Al Mussayeb, and Sobra and Blad Roz and Amar Weys from March 16 till April 14 2003.
Signature…
General Rasheed Abdallah Sultan
Assistant to the Army Chief of Staff- Al Mira
March 2003
End of Partial translation
The remaining pages of this 9 pages top secret memo talk about getting the special vehicles to transfer the SPECIAL AMMUNITION and the people assigned to supervise and execute the transfer and they were top Iraqi Army and Military Intelligence officers.
Amen.
I'm not positive. I always assumed it was individual views. I tried an unscientific experiment with a story I posted earlier today ... I found it in my posts so I could see the number of views. Then I opened it up, refreshed it, went out of it, refreshed it, posted to myself in it and did everything else I could think of to reload the page.
It stayed on 765 views (even when I refreshed the page where I was looking at the number of views).
I don't know if that means anything or not.
Can't get the document, something wrong with the URL>
I Googled "Sarin gas test on dog". Story top of the list, dated 2002 from CNN.
Ditto!!
That tape was from Afghanistan,....wonder where those folks got their chemical?
Am I correct in believing that you are the only one doing any translation? Are there others? Who might they be? What have they found?
Can you help on this question, post #269?
"The war started on March 19, 2003. Did the Iraqis have time to move this stuff before we got there?"
Convoys to Syria anyone?
Well, a view means that the page has been accessed that number of times. For instance, I could post a thread and go back to see it 100 times, giving me 100 views.
That was a tape from Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, or maybe Pakistan.
Some "retired generals" make it onto the front pages, some don't. Sigh.
If I am not mistaken, I read that document that the MSM was discussing. It was posted already translated to English. It wasn't about not having WMD.
Saddam's regime was always trying to satisfy all remaining issues that the UN inspectors had. In this case, the UN inspectors were wanting the Hussein regime to account for a batch of chemical weapons in which they had knowledge of the export of the precursors to Iraq from companies in the USA and the E.U.
The Hussein regime had used the chemical weapons against Iran and could not tell that to the UN inspectors. So their dilemma was that the UN inspectors could look for 50 years and never find them because the did not have them.
And that is true, they (Hussein regime) no longer had that particular batch of chemical weapons. The MSM was very misleading with that article. And any article that the MSM discusses about the documents and does not give the document number is VERY suspect. This being a case in point.
Do not look for the MSM to be anything but 100% dishonest with these documents.
There are few others doing the translations. I think that Ray Robinson has a gentlemen called Sammi who is doing some translations for him. Also Laura Mansfield is doing some.
Any idea where you saw that? I thought it was based off audio recordings.
You are right. The MSM dismissed the audio recordings also. You can go through the entire translations of the audio recordings at http://intelligencesummit.org/ via a Powerpoint presentation.
The MSM also said that Saddam "told the USA and the UK that terrorism is coming." That was ABC News' translation. That is NOWHERE to be found in the original translation. Further, the Hussein regime is discussing a proxy attack against the USA. The MSM took this as the Hussein regime saying that Iraq said they would not attack the USA.
Very misleading indeed.
In the audio, and on many of the translated documents you have to get a feel for how they operate and discuss UN inspection matters. The Hussein regime was only trying to satisfy issues that the UN had so that they could close that file (4 files: chemical, bio, missiles, nuclear). And when I say satisfy, that could be through lying or what ever manner got the UN off their back for that particular file.
Many times you'll see the Hussein regime say they have nothing left of the chemical weapons. This is referring to nothing left pertaining to issues on the UN's chemical weapons file. It does not mean that they have no chemical weapons.
Again, the MSM is VER misleading. No surprise.
As for that document that I read, I don't have the number. I spent a lot of time reading all the already translated documents posted at the military site and didn't keep up with the numbers. It was a very long document and boring at times, but it gave you a clear picture of how they were addressing the UN's files and how to close out those files so that the UN would quit bugging them. Closing out a file didn't mean they didn't have the weapons, it just meant that the satisfies the UN for whatever request they had.
In the case of the chemical weapons they used against Iran, they were stuck and could never close that file because they couldn't tell the UN that they had committed genocide with that batch of chemical weapons.
The link doesn't work anymore.
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