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March 2003 Top Secret Memo: TRANSFER OF SPECIAL AMMUNITION (POTENTIAL CHEMICAL WEAPONS) Translation
Pentagon/FMSO Iraq Pre-War Documents ^ | April 17 2007 | jveritas

Posted on 04/17/2006 8:40:37 AM PDT by jveritas

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To: Salvation

Amen.


261 posted on 04/17/2006 8:54:50 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Not certain how the views are counted, but I think it is likely that a reload or a refresh counts as one view....

I'm not positive. I always assumed it was individual views. I tried an unscientific experiment with a story I posted earlier today ... I found it in my posts so I could see the number of views. Then I opened it up, refreshed it, went out of it, refreshed it, posted to myself in it and did everything else I could think of to reload the page.

It stayed on 765 views (even when I refreshed the page where I was looking at the number of views).

I don't know if that means anything or not.

262 posted on 04/17/2006 8:55:26 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: BIGLOOK

Can't get the document, something wrong with the URL>


263 posted on 04/17/2006 9:06:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I Googled "Sarin gas test on dog". Story top of the list, dated 2002 from CNN.


264 posted on 04/17/2006 9:09:39 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
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To: SittinYonder
Well maybe , John, clever guy that he is, has a slick way to remember things, in which case I am likely wrong.
265 posted on 04/17/2006 9:10:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: roaddog727

Ditto!!


266 posted on 04/17/2006 9:27:17 PM PDT by Driver32
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To: BIGLOOK
OK:

Disturbing scenes of death show capability with chemical gas
August 19, 2002 Posted: 3:46 PM EDT (1946 GMT)

267 posted on 04/17/2006 9:28:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: BIGLOOK

That tape was from Afghanistan,....wonder where those folks got their chemical?


268 posted on 04/17/2006 9:31:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas

Am I correct in believing that you are the only one doing any translation? Are there others? Who might they be? What have they found?


269 posted on 04/17/2006 9:34:49 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: RayRobisonblog; cookcounty

Can you help on this question, post #269?


270 posted on 04/17/2006 9:52:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hmmm....

Afghanistani chemical factories? No.

Ahhhh....Iraqi chem facilities.....No. But they were probable the middle man.

Who is capable of production and has stockpiles?

The love of money is the root of all evil, never so true as in a destitute Russian state.
271 posted on 04/17/2006 9:59:59 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
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To: PLMerite

"The war started on March 19, 2003. Did the Iraqis have time to move this stuff before we got there?"

Convoys to Syria anyone?


272 posted on 04/17/2006 10:29:53 PM PDT by plenipotentiary
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To: SittinYonder
Nearly 6,000 people have seen this translation!

Well, a view means that the page has been accessed that number of times. For instance, I could post a thread and go back to see it 100 times, giving me 100 views.

273 posted on 04/18/2006 3:59:38 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: BIGLOOK

That was a tape from Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, or maybe Pakistan.


274 posted on 04/18/2006 4:00:56 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: jveritas
I hope that the facts and truth that these documents are revealing and what General Georges Sada is saying will be known by a much wider audience.

Some "retired generals" make it onto the front pages, some don't. Sigh.

275 posted on 04/18/2006 4:22:15 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: SittinYonder
---But the contradiction is the only story the AP reported on about the document release, which was the "poor Saddam" story about translated tapes where he and other senior officials were talking about how they had no WMD but the US didn't believe them.---

If I am not mistaken, I read that document that the MSM was discussing. It was posted already translated to English. It wasn't about not having WMD.

Saddam's regime was always trying to satisfy all remaining issues that the UN inspectors had. In this case, the UN inspectors were wanting the Hussein regime to account for a batch of chemical weapons in which they had knowledge of the export of the precursors to Iraq from companies in the USA and the E.U.

The Hussein regime had used the chemical weapons against Iran and could not tell that to the UN inspectors. So their dilemma was that the UN inspectors could look for 50 years and never find them because the did not have them.

And that is true, they (Hussein regime) no longer had that particular batch of chemical weapons. The MSM was very misleading with that article. And any article that the MSM discusses about the documents and does not give the document number is VERY suspect. This being a case in point.

Do not look for the MSM to be anything but 100% dishonest with these documents.

276 posted on 04/18/2006 5:28:03 AM PDT by avacado
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To: cookcounty

There are few others doing the translations. I think that Ray Robinson has a gentlemen called Sammi who is doing some translations for him. Also Laura Mansfield is doing some.


277 posted on 04/18/2006 5:32:15 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: avacado
If I am not mistaken, I read that document that the MSM was discussing. It was posted already translated to English. It wasn't about not having WMD.

Any idea where you saw that? I thought it was based off audio recordings.

278 posted on 04/18/2006 5:34:19 AM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: SittinYonder
---Any idea where you saw that? I thought it was based off audio recordings.---

You are right. The MSM dismissed the audio recordings also. You can go through the entire translations of the audio recordings at http://intelligencesummit.org/ via a Powerpoint presentation.

The MSM also said that Saddam "told the USA and the UK that terrorism is coming." That was ABC News' translation. That is NOWHERE to be found in the original translation. Further, the Hussein regime is discussing a proxy attack against the USA. The MSM took this as the Hussein regime saying that Iraq said they would not attack the USA.

Very misleading indeed.

In the audio, and on many of the translated documents you have to get a feel for how they operate and discuss UN inspection matters. The Hussein regime was only trying to satisfy issues that the UN had so that they could close that file (4 files: chemical, bio, missiles, nuclear). And when I say satisfy, that could be through lying or what ever manner got the UN off their back for that particular file.

Many times you'll see the Hussein regime say they have nothing left of the chemical weapons. This is referring to nothing left pertaining to issues on the UN's chemical weapons file. It does not mean that they have no chemical weapons.

Again, the MSM is VER misleading. No surprise.

As for that document that I read, I don't have the number. I spent a lot of time reading all the already translated documents posted at the military site and didn't keep up with the numbers. It was a very long document and boring at times, but it gave you a clear picture of how they were addressing the UN's files and how to close out those files so that the UN would quit bugging them. Closing out a file didn't mean they didn't have the weapons, it just meant that the satisfies the UN for whatever request they had.

In the case of the chemical weapons they used against Iran, they were stuck and could never close that file because they couldn't tell the UN that they had committed genocide with that batch of chemical weapons.

279 posted on 04/18/2006 5:54:07 AM PDT by avacado
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To: BIGLOOK

The link doesn't work anymore.


280 posted on 04/18/2006 6:40:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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