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March 2003 Top Secret Memo: TRANSFER OF SPECIAL AMMUNITION (POTENTIAL CHEMICAL WEAPONS) Translation
Pentagon/FMSO Iraq Pre-War Documents ^ | April 17 2007 | jveritas

Posted on 04/17/2006 8:40:37 AM PDT by jveritas

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To: jveritas

Danke................ John Kerry ought to enjoy this.


101 posted on 04/17/2006 11:14:24 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Oh, for the days when "disrespect" was just a noun.)
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To: eyespysomething; jveritas

WOW! Boy do I have to play catch-up today--lots of good stuff to read again!

Thanks for the PING and the incredible work!


102 posted on 04/17/2006 11:15:39 AM PDT by Shelayne (Antique Media--losing value everyday...)
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To: xzins

Final perimeter defense of the capital, specifically at choke points like river crossings. Collateral damage is/was nothing to Saddam Hussein.


103 posted on 04/17/2006 11:15:59 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: eyespysomething

Could I get on that ping list, please? Many thanks.


104 posted on 04/17/2006 11:16:16 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (If low-skill workers were key to economic growth, Mexico would be an economic powerhouse.-Rich Lowry)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Too bad we don't have a free press to help with this...

The more facts that come to light the louder the MSM shouts "there were no WMD's in Iraq".

105 posted on 04/17/2006 11:19:00 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: All
General Rasheed Abdallah Sultan Assistant to the Army Chief of Staff- Al Mira

Anyone have info on this guy? A simple Google search turned up nothing.

106 posted on 04/17/2006 11:24:48 AM PDT by avacado
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To: xzins
"Chemical artillery rounds being shipped to Baghdad is an unusual thing."

Someone pointed out it could be they gathered them altogether in a central location to be trucked and flown out to Syria.

107 posted on 04/17/2006 11:26:55 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Coop

And we knew this a long time ago... The MSM are really pieces of you know what.

Try googling Sarin Iraq, Musturd Gas Iraq... any of them.


http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:f_6gENN-BusJ:www.state.gov/documents/organization/18130.pdf++nerve+agents+Iraq&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6

Important quantities of anthrax, VX found: Iraq
Monday, March 3 2003 10:21 Hrs (IST)


Baghdad: Ongoing excavations have led to the discovery of important quantities of anthrax and VX nerve agent, Iraqi Presidential advisor Amer al-Saadi said on March 2.

UN inspectors have been seeking clarification for years of the whereabouts of such deadly agents.
http://news.indiainfo.com/spotlight/usiraq/03iraq.html


108 posted on 04/17/2006 11:27:22 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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To: Coop

Hugh Hewitt has this thread linked on his site..the owrd is getting out.


109 posted on 04/17/2006 11:28:07 AM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Dog

word.


110 posted on 04/17/2006 11:28:18 AM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Dog

I won't be content until Dan Rather is spotted making copies at an Abilene Kinko's! :-)


111 posted on 04/17/2006 11:29:11 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop

What I mean is from one of those old sayings from the foxhole: "If the enemy's in range....so are you."

When we're 10-15 miles out of Baghdad, then his artillery isn't going to make any difference. At that point our air assault, tank, and bradley chem. capability makes chemical control of chokepoints insignificant.

He's consolidating and getting rid of them.


112 posted on 04/17/2006 11:30:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: xzins
When we're 10-15 miles out of Baghdad, then his artillery isn't going to make any difference. At that point our air assault, tank, and bradley chem. capability makes chemical control of chokepoints insignificant.

I could make that argument about anything Iraq tried to do to stop our forces. But for WMDs to be effective (especially non-persistent agents), it makes sense to confine them to smaller areas. And the media would have ensured the public relations value of such WMD use would have been huge!

113 posted on 04/17/2006 11:32:11 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Spunky

centralization for shipping makes sense to me.

If they're going to use them in Baghdad, then they'll use them long before Baghdad.


114 posted on 04/17/2006 11:33:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: avacado; Coop

There is a General Rasheed married to Dr. Germ...a woman named Taha.


115 posted on 04/17/2006 11:34:42 AM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: xzins
If they're going to use them in Baghdad, then they'll use them long before Baghdad.

Why?

116 posted on 04/17/2006 11:37:03 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop

Desperate measures to save Baghdad suggest a desire not to allow the desperate to develop.

Better to stop the enemy early rather than TOO late.


117 posted on 04/17/2006 11:40:07 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: xzins

Realize their command and control would have been less than stellar, if even operational. They'd likely need to use WMDs at chokepoints just so they could have the correct assets in place where coalition troops would have to go to complete the invasion. With no air cover, moving the weapons after the war had started would have been extremely high risk.


118 posted on 04/17/2006 11:43:56 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Dog

That's the wrong general: General Amer Mohammed Rasheed al Ubeidi

"Rasheed was once involved in secret weapons manufacturing and Rasheed's wife, Dr. Rihab Taha, a.k.a. the notorious 'Dr. Germ', is the biological weapons scientist sought for questioning by UN inspectors just prior to the war"


119 posted on 04/17/2006 11:52:11 AM PDT by avacado
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To: RayRobisonblog; eyespysomething

Those are good points.

I can't provide a link and don't have time to look it up now, but I know I read/heard senior military folks involved in the defense of Baghdad who believed units beside them had WMD as the invasion was happening.

As far as it being a top secret document, certainly that would indicate that it was not for the benefit of the troops in the trenches unless he expected the people who saw it to pass the word down the line.

As I said, I continue to believe (and have all along) that the WMD went to Syria. But if these documents are going to be meaningful, we've got to consider alternative meanings and not simply take them at face value and assume that they are what the purport to be.

Particularly when so many of them are contradictory, we can't assume them all to be a smoking gun.


120 posted on 04/17/2006 12:06:03 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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