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Tons of Two Towers reviews from AICN (spoilers galore!)
Ain't It Cool News ^ | 12/6/02 | various

Posted on 12/06/2002 10:26:18 AM PST by Texas2step

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Thank you!
41 posted on 12/06/2002 12:17:02 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: Deb
I saw it with the cast and New Line execs which is not a good way to see something.

As a great fan, I would heartily disagree! - I am so envious I could scream.

I hope Viggo doesn't kill it for a lot of people too, but I think we here at FR over-state the impact of an actor's political views. Most people in America are not that political, and don't boycott people at the drop of a hat because of a disagreement on an issue. They go to be entertained, and they don't know, or don't care, about the bandwagons an actor is riding on.

On a personal note... I am very impressed with the cast on screen. All were perfect for their roles, but I am also impressed with their much-depicted off-screen friendship and love of the work they did on the film. I think it adds a lot to the experience for me. I particularly have become fond of Elijah Wood, who I think is a pretty classy kid, for a kid that grew up in the acting business. He seems very together and mature in interviews. And the other hobbits in particular do too. And I like Orlando Bloom and even Viggo Mortenson. Politics aside or unknown, they seem like nice people to be around, and mostly without pretension. Are they?

42 posted on 12/06/2002 12:22:46 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Texas2step
JRD is fine, thanks. Much better.

Like I said, Viggo is so wonderful in TTT that it really makes me sad about what he's doing. He'll be living in Alec Baldwinia with the other jobless actors if he isn't careful.

JRD has been trying to counteract Viggo by stressing that our entire civilization is in danger of destruction by radical Islam and if we don't get this right democracies will end up like the Buddhas in Afghanistan. (he was once a history professor so he does tend to go on a bit) He's gotten standing Os from some of the press. We were stunned.

I'm glad your daughter liked FOTR. Eleven is about the right age to get a major crush on Orlando. I have to constantly fight the urge to run off with Billy Boyd (Pippin). His Scottish accent is as thick as hagis and he wears kilts to all the premieres. So precious.

43 posted on 12/06/2002 12:26:57 PM PST by Deb
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To: Texas2step
Exactly! If we don't have this type of subtle character development, then folks won't understand...

Heh... I just shrugged when I saw the same type of occasional reactions to Elijah Wood's performance in FoTR. Someone here frequently comes on thread to say that Elijah Wood had one expression through the whole movie.

WHAT!? I saw reactions that were excellent and natural and understanding of his role. With a glance, I saw the character come alive.

44 posted on 12/06/2002 12:27:39 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Bump for later.
45 posted on 12/06/2002 12:30:13 PM PST by abner
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To: HairOfTheDog
They are the most incredible group of actors I have ever been around. There isn't an ego between them.

A lot of that is because of the number of Brits in the cast. They are notorious for their lack of pretense and ego.

And you're right, Viggo is very sweet. Very kind and soft-spoken. His only problem is that he considers himself a New York "artist" (as in painting), and thinks he needs to act like a bohemian (he won't wear shoes and is addicted to the word "c--t"...another famous t-shirt incident). But don't under-estimate the negative power of an anti-American position by an actor. It has ruined lots of careers, because when an actor spouts a political view half of the people listening will hate him/her for it. The critic's love for Baldwin, Ed Asner, Susan Sarandon and all the rest, don't do anything to help their projects make money. Which they don't. Baldwin is now doing voice-overs and working as the center square on Hollywod Squares.

And you were right about Elijah. A very wise, old soul there.

But besides Billy Boyd, I have to say Christopher Lee has my heart. He's 6'7", gorgeous and 80 years old (which is unbelievable). He sings opera. Speaks 7 languages fluently (including Russian) and holds your hand when he talks to you. Unfortunately, he has very advanced arthritis (sp) and is in lots of pain. His scenes were very hard on him, as was just traveling to New Zealand.

The Hobbits are always together and except for Sean Astin, who's married with babies, they hang out all the time. I think Billy and Dom even stay at Elijah's when they're in town.

46 posted on 12/06/2002 12:51:32 PM PST by Deb
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To: HairOfTheDog
Thanks for the threads...I think.
47 posted on 12/06/2002 12:59:23 PM PST by Deb
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To: Deb
What was Ian Holm like? I have to confess,he's been my favourite actor for years :-)
48 posted on 12/06/2002 12:59:44 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: Deb
Wow.... Well, I am thrilled to have you tell us all this today!

I am enamoured of your description of Christopher Lee. Sounds like a great man to be around.

And I also love Billy Boyd. Heh. I should be arrested for the crush I have on those boys. ;~D

I hope Viggo never reaches Baldwin status. Really I do, because he is too good to be wasted that way. So far, this is the first real incident I know of, and the key will be that he doesn't make this a habit!
49 posted on 12/06/2002 1:08:42 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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I hope Viggo never reaches Baldwin status. Really I do, because he is too good to be wasted that way.

Viggo is saying some stupid stuff. But, unlike Alec Baldwin, Viggo actually has some talent...

50 posted on 12/06/2002 1:25:14 PM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog; Deb
Wow.... Well, I am thrilled to have you tell us all this today!

Deb, I wish to second that which Hair has already said.

Also, I agree with Corin's assessment of the Viggo to Baldwin status. Viggo is indeed talented.

Oh yeah. Billy in a kilt! *swoon*

51 posted on 12/06/2002 1:34:46 PM PST by RMDupree
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To: Corin Stormhands; RMDupree
I liked Alec in Hunt for Red October...
52 posted on 12/06/2002 1:39:09 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
So did I. I am also resigned to the fact that most talented artists lean left because of their overly emotional view of life. It takes a lot to view the political world from a nonemotional point.
53 posted on 12/06/2002 1:42:06 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: HairOfTheDog; RMDupree
I liked Alec in Hunt for Red October...

I always try to catch re-runs of Knotts Landing in hopes that I can see him fall off the roof again...(or was it on the pitchfork?)

Kinda like watching Titanic just to see Rose say goodbye to Jack...

54 posted on 12/06/2002 1:42:22 PM PST by Corin Stormhands
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"JRD is fine, thanks. Much better."

Good to hear. We (the great unwashed public) don't always think of his line of work as being hazardous.

"He's gotten standing Os from some of the press."

Amazing how the prestitutes will sometimes respond when the truth is laid out in an intelligent manner with passion. Too often the voices speaking the truth belong to humans with all too obvious faults and the message gets lost in the distrations. Tell him to keep it up!

"Eleven is about the right age to get a major crush on Orlando."

For some reason, she's been smitten by Aragorn. I think it's the hair. ;-)
55 posted on 12/06/2002 1:44:32 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: Texas2step
Avoid the talkbacks at AICN. Usual juvenile trash talking.

I think I've seen enough reviews at this point to know what I need to know. At first I had difficulties with FOTR because the alterations from the book bothered me; I couldn't quite set them aside. I also read too many reviews calling this the greatest movie ever made. Expectations like that can make it difficult to take a movie on fair terms. So I said to myself: No reviews, no reading about the movie next time.

But on reflection I've decided I'd rather know about the departures from the text now so that I can be better braced for them. I think I'm reconciled by now to the idea of Haldir and the Elves' last stand at Helm's Deep and Aragon's almost-death. I know Shelob won't be there so I won't be crushed when the credits start to role sans arachnophobia. I'm not quite sure what to make of Faramir's character alterations, but I suppose I'll be braced for them at any rate.

I'll be interested to see what Moriarty thinks. Otherwise, the reviews sound a bit the same after a while. "Great movie, very dark, Gollum is amazing, Helm's Deep rocks."

56 posted on 12/06/2002 1:57:34 PM PST by The Iguana
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To: Deb
Thanks for sharing your views about the actors and such.

I have a quick question. Why is Christopher Lee considered a consummate actor? As far as I know he made it big in all the Hammer Dracula movies. Did he have a distinguished stage career that I never heard of?

That said, he is the perfect Saruman, and you can tell from the extras on the DVD's that he loves Tolkiens work.
57 posted on 12/06/2002 2:02:26 PM PST by ksen
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To: Deb; HairOfTheDog
I think JRD is a Scottish nationalist/conservative. I remember hearing how Ian McKellan and JRD got into an argument over the 2000 presidential election -- no mention was made about which sides they picked. I'm willing to bet JRD defended the Electoral College!

Hair: It must be that Numenorean elf-blood in Viggo's veins. Dwarves rule the world! :-P

58 posted on 12/06/2002 2:16:54 PM PST by John Farson
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Do not speak ill of your betters, Mr. Farson...
59 posted on 12/06/2002 2:18:26 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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Betters?! Brghhhhh.
60 posted on 12/06/2002 2:20:16 PM PST by John Farson
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