Lure of the Rings

Time ^ | 12/02/02 | Jess Cagle

[Maigret]

Dubya is Aragorn.

That works too :)

[John Farson]

Dubya IS Frodo

I dunno... someone should warn him about the ring. ;-)

[John Farson]

The only good thing about it really is the fact that Time revealed that we actually do get to see the Ents destroy Isengard.

If they botched PJ's marital status, they may be wrong about this too. You'd think they'd get their facts straight -- as they own the movie.

[LowOiL]

The only good thing about it really is the fact that Time revealed that we actually do get to see the Ents destroy Isengard.

That is to me would probable be the single most thrilling part if I recalled my Mind's Eye pictures envisioned during reading the books as a kid. I was madder than hell for treebeard/Ents as a kid and those walls had to come down. Now if they were going to add to the movie, I really would like the see the Ents meet their long lost loves other than some corny love seens. That probable was the saddest reality of the whole series, to fade out and die without the women for the Ents.

I feel like a durn tree-hugger somehow. LOL

[HairOfTheDog]

What a softy you are...

I too hope Treebeard one day finds the entwives...

ENT:
When Spring unfolds the beechen leaf, and sap is in the bough;
When light is on the wild-wood stream, and wind is on the brow;
When stride is long, and breath is deep, and keen the mountain-air,
Come back to me! Come back to me, and say my land is fair!

ENTWIFE:
When Spring is come to garth and field, and corn is in the blade;
When blossom like a shining snow is on the orchard laid;
When shower and Sun upon the Earth with fragrance fill the air,
I'll linger here, and will not come, because my land is fair.

ENT:
When Summer lies upon the world, and in a noon of gold
Beneath the roof of sleeping leaves the dreams of trees unfold;
When woodland halls are green and cool, and wind is in the West,
Come back to me! Come back to me, and say my land is best!

ENTWIFE:
When Summer warms the hanging fruit and burns the berry brown;
When straw is gold, and ear is white, and harvest comes to town;
When honey spills, and apple swells, though wind be in the West,
I'll linger here beneath the Sun, because my land is best!

ENT:
When Winter comes, the winter wild that hill and wood shall slay;
When trees shall fall and starless night devour the sunless day;
When wind is in the deadly East, then in the bitter rain
I'll look for thee, and call to thee; I'll come to thee again!

ENTWIFE:
When Winter comes, and singing ends; when darkness falls at last;
When broken is the barren bough, and light and labour past;
I'll look for thee, and wait for thee, until we meet again:
Together we will take the road beneath the bitter rain!

BOTH:

Together we will take the road that leads into the West,
And far away will find a land where both our hearts may rest.'

[Samwise]

That is one funny picture! But I'm sure Dubya is too smart to wear the one ring.

Seriously, I hope he has read LotR. I think it would help him in these trying times. I know I often find comfort and strength in many of its passages. As much as I love the movie, it is not the inspiration that the book is.

[ksen]

Aren't the "love" scenes supposed to be flash-forward to Arwen and Aragorn when they are married and he dies, and she goes to Lothlorien and dies?

I think Elrond is using that to convince her to leave Middle-Earth with him instead of giving up her immortality and staying with Aragorn.

[HairOfTheDog]

I think the scenes with Arwen and Aragorn in TTT are all either flash-forwards or flash-backs. I don't think Arwen is in TTT in real time. I base this on PJ's statement in the FoTR SE commentary where Aragorn nods in farewell to her leaving Rivendell. PJ said, "As readers of the book know, it will be quite some time before they see each other again." I don't think they are really going to be a big deal. I am expecting, that like FoTR, that love scene means there are scenes that show their love, not to be confused with sex scenes.

[maquiladora]

I think there is a flashback and a flashforward.

I think Arwen sees a flashforward of Aragorn being killed by the Uruk-Hai and then him in his grave with her in funeral garb (as I think we've seen in a pic).
Then, when Aragorn is knocked off his horse and thought to be dead, floating in the river, after the Warg battle he has a dream, a flashback to when he first met Arwen, and their first kiss...and perhaps it's the memory of this kiss that causes to to wake up, then Brego the horse he freed from the Edoras stables drags him from the river bank and he rides off to Helm's Deep where the others already are, and think he's dead. And on the way, there's that famous scene where he sees the 10,000 Orcs marching to Helm's Deep.

Oppps, spoilers? Hehe....just guesswork really....honest!

[ksen]

The director readily admits that of his three films, Two Towers departs most from Tolkien's work.....If we make a good film, we'll be forgiven, whatever the crimes we commit to the book."

[HairOfTheDog]

I am not worried. I think his use of the word "crime" refers to any deviations that an absolute purist would consider sacrelige. I think Saruman and Sauron are still the bad guys, our fellowship are the good guys, there is a battle, and the good guys still win this one.

TTT is filler for me. When I look at the books, there is not a lot of stand-alone story in TTT. Not much happens that really moves us toward the eventual outcome. Frodo just barely enters Mordor, having moved about an inch on the map... Saruman goes down... that is a major event.... and the battle of Helms Deep is interesting but not pivotal to the outcome of the battle to come. The real events are a whole year away in RoTK, this year is the year of preparation and waiting. PJ will give us stuff to talk about! I expect mostly good things.