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How We Got Fluoridated
Stop Fluoridation USA ^ | Unknown | Philip Heggen

Posted on 11/22/2002 7:33:34 PM PST by FormerLurker

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To: FormerLurker
And sunflower kernels cure cancer, eh, doc? LOL!
81 posted on 11/22/2002 11:20:03 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
You do know that according to the Physicians Desk Reference that I referred to, it states that fluoride causes atopic dermatis right? Did you check the CDC link in relation to the smallpox vaccine that I linked right after it? It states that those with that condition SHOULD NOT take the smallpox vaccine, as it can lead to SERIOUS complications.

Did you check the CDC site and look at the images of what happens to those that receive the vaccine that have that condition?

82 posted on 11/22/2002 11:26:01 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: Cultural Jihad
From the 1991 Physicians' Desk Reference

The 1991 Physicians' Desk Reference cautions : "Dental Fluorosis [mottling] may result from exceeding the recommended dose. In hypersensitive individuals, fluorides occasionally cause skin eruptions such as atopic dermatitis, eczema or urticaria, gastric distress, headache, and weaknesshave also been reported. These hypersensitive reactions usually disappear promptly after discontinuation of the fluoride. In rare cases, a delay in the eruption of teeth has been reported."

I find it highly interesting that the very conditions that cause adverse reactions to the smallpox vaccine are due to fluoride.

Who Should NOT Receive the Smallpox Vaccine?

83 posted on 11/22/2002 11:28:30 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
Fluoride is a toxin, so ANY amount is too much.

While I'm not familiar with the medical definition of "toxin," I do know that it's not the toxin that kills ya -- it's the dose. Even this anti-fluoride activist agrees with me (WSJ article, both sides may enjoy). And after briefly scanning this PDF, I'm not terribly worried.

84 posted on 11/22/2002 11:37:08 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: FormerLurker
I understand that hydrogen oxide is poisonous if ingested in sufficient quantities.
85 posted on 11/22/2002 11:37:26 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: July 4th
Unfortunately, that's a little difficult for most, since it's not just "crap" that has sugar. The sugars in the major "summer" fruits outpace many candies, and can cause the same tooth decay. Frankly, I'd rather brush with fluoride than give up a nice juicy peach.

It's "refined" sugar that's the culprit. I don't buy that myself, figuring it's in enough stuff I might eat inadvertently (like the odd cookie). But living where it's always summer, I have about 3-4 fruit smoothies per week, and I have yet to see my first cavity. It's been decades since I regularly used fluoride toothpaste or drank any water that wasn't bottled spring water, so all that fruit sugar in all those smoothies must be pretty harmless.

86 posted on 11/22/2002 11:39:03 PM PST by phroebe
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To: Caesar Soze
While I'm not familiar with the medical definition of "toxin," I do know that it's not the toxin that kills ya -- it's the dose. Even this anti-fluoride activist agrees with me (WSJ article, both sides may enjoy). And after briefly scanning this PDF, I'm not terribly worried.

Would you be terribly worried if you ate, drank, and breathed lead? You shouldn't be, as it's LESS toxic than FLUORIDE. Fluoride IS a poison, and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Read the article, read my links..

87 posted on 11/22/2002 11:40:28 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: wimpycat
Everything AA-OK!
88 posted on 11/22/2002 11:46:38 PM PST by TLI
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To: Cultural Jihad
I understand that hydrogen oxide is poisonous if ingested in sufficient quantities.

For one, water is NOT scientifically referred to as "hydrogen oxide". It is not an oxide, but rather a true molecule, rather than a ionic formula unit. It has a valence bond versus a ionic bond.

Now that we've gone past that, you do realize that water is essential to life, right? That is in stark contrast to that which has NO nutrional value, as fluoride does not assist or aid in ANY celluar activity, rather it IMPEDES cellular activity in the way of neurotransmission and ion channel processes. It bonds with calcium in bones, causing skeletal fluorosis. It is lethal to small children in the amounts used in fluoride treatments. It has NO benefit, and is a highly reactive toxin. Do you see a bit of a difference here?

89 posted on 11/22/2002 11:47:15 PM PST by FormerLurker
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Hmm, not very good grammer in my last post..

It is not an oxide, but rather is instead a true molecule, rather than a ionic formula unit. It has a valence bond versus a ionic bond.

90 posted on 11/23/2002 12:03:32 AM PST by FormerLurker
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To: Cultural Jihad
I understand that hydrogen oxide is poisonous if ingested in sufficient quantities.

Incidently CJ, if water WAS an ionic compound, it'd be called hydrogen dioxide.

91 posted on 11/23/2002 12:32:24 AM PST by FormerLurker
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To: Cultural Jihad
Incidently CJ, if water WAS an ionic compound, it'd be called hydrogen dioxide.

Duh, I meant to say dihydrogen oxide Well it's just not called that. It's called H2O, or simply water...

92 posted on 11/23/2002 12:40:58 AM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
While millions die from malaria, Algore bans DDT to save the 'Red Breasted Coat Hanger'
93 posted on 11/23/2002 12:49:12 AM PST by rockfish59
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To: FormerLurker
If I ate, drank, and breathed lead in sufficient quantities to cause detrimental effects to my person, I'd certainly be worried. But I don't. Neither do I eat, drink, or breath sufficient quantities of fluoride ions to negatively impact my life in any measurable way. The news and journal articles I have read, as well as the discussion on the JunkScience.com forum, tell me that I will never have to worry about such things. I'll look at some of your stuff, but only after I get a grounding in fact so I can detect the woo-woo factor if present.
94 posted on 11/23/2002 1:27:17 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: Lester Moore
...where the flouride/few cavities link was first determined.

Colorado Springs, 1901, Frederick S. McKay. I think that is El Paso county, Co.

There's a good history and description at the linked site.

Fluoride is toxic, but who in their right mind would injest 6 tubes of toothpaste or drink 5000 gallons of water at once? Fear of Fluoride is irrational, greenpeace junk science.

95 posted on 11/23/2002 2:51:51 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: Caesar Soze
If I ate, drank, and breathed lead in sufficient quantities to cause detrimental effects to my person, I'd certainly be worried. But I don't. Neither do I eat, drink, or breath sufficient quantities of fluoride ions to negatively impact my life in any measurable way.

You obviously haven't read much of the information that I've provided either directly or that which I've linked.

The news and journal articles I have read, as well as the discussion on the JunkScience.com forum, tell me that I will never have to worry about such things. I'll look at some of your stuff, but only after I get a grounding in fact so I can detect the woo-woo factor if present.

Those who say that you NEED to ingest fluoride ARE the ones practicing JUNK SCIENCE. You really SHOULD read through the main article, there's a link to the rest of it titled, Introduction.

Clicking the above link will work just as well. The other two links provided in the remarks section are of extremely high value as well..

THEN, there's the rest of thread.

97 posted on 11/23/2002 6:00:18 AM PST by FormerLurker
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