Prayer Warriors Needed - FReeper desperate

myself | 11/12/02 | Genesis defender

[Conservababe]

I reserve my prayers for the really needy, not the victims of their own choices. God is busy, and does not have time for unemployed computer games addicts. LOL

[John Jamieson]

I only know the man thru what he said here.

I worked over 30 years supporting and raising 2 of my own children, and 8 more conceived by "fathers" like this.

This man claims to be college educated and hasn't been able to hold a job for the last 5 years of relatively low unemployment. BS. Save your pity for his wife and kid, and get off my back. I'm not the problem here ...... he is.

[Conservababe]

Touche'

[John Jamieson]

Sorry to hear your story. You do have a very special case. I really respect those that devote themselves to their special children. The ones I can't take are those that abandon there children, as this father has done.

My youngest stepchild (he calls me dad and I call him son), who I love dearly is now a missonary in Uruguay. I can't wait for him to come home for a while next summer, on his way to A&M or BYU.

[petuniasevan]

I think so. After all, Genesis Defender didn't blame ANYONE except himself for his problems. JJ just needs to take out his "righteous anger" on someone. Problem is, he's chosen the wrong target. Gen is NOT one of the "sperm donor" absentee fathers JJ so reviles. So I consider his attacks to be wrongheaded.

[John Jamieson]

If you referring to me, I'm not angry at all at the children, They're certainly not to blame, only the "father" that ownes me about $200,000 in child support he never paid. Think I'll ever get it?

PS All of the children are grown and doing fine. 8 grandchildren (all with hard working fathers) at last count.

[petuniasevan]

I gave him a chance. I offered him a chance at a job.

Everyone gets one chance. Now it's up to him.

Don't forget that what I objected to in yours and JJ's postings (mostly his) was the namecalling attacks.

We can all be a little more mature than that.

And yes, I feel sorry for his wife and kid. The little guy is SO CUTE, and mom is such a good mother.

[John Jamieson]

Wait a minute. He is soon to be a "missing father", just because of his own refusal to take responsibility. The only thing I see different from the usual case, is that the wife has had to pay for his expenses too!

You should be just as "angry" as I am. Is his wife's anger similarly missplaced? I'll bet his fatherinlaw is none to pleased with him either.

[John Jamieson]

"The little guy is SO CUTE, and mom is such a good mother."


Strange attitude you have there.

[Conservababe]

Dearie, did he take your offer of a job?

[John Jamieson]

I'll give you 4 to 1 odds that this guy is unemployable. He probably has other problems as well.

[petuniasevan]

I went through a (slightly) similar situation. I'm female. Married but no kids. I was unemployed and sat at the video game console for hours on end. No housework got done. Hubby was furious when he'd come home from the road (trucking) and I would be a slob in a trashed house. Well, guess what? I went to the doctor and found out that I was mildly depressed. He also told me that the "escapism" of video games actually makes depression worse. I didn't have to give it up but limited games to weekends. I also went out and found a job.

The house is still messy, but I work 6 days a week, so what the hey.

BTW, I told Gen that if he was willing to work, I'd put in a word for him. That puts the ball in his court. His chance to prove that he can "walk the walk".

[petuniasevan]

Haven't heard back yet; I posted the offer kinda late at night. Hopefully he will see it tomorrow later today.

[petuniasevan]

That the baby is cute, and that the mother is a good mother?

Why is that strange? It's true.

[John Jamieson]

"Second, that God would help me find a job to support myself by Jan 1st. I so desperately want to prove to my wife that I can support myself and be a Godly man for once in my life."

Notice the use of "myself" not family. Does that tell you something?

[John Jamieson]

Are you just one person or two?

I don't think I missunderstood your original meaning.

[Conservababe]

If your house is still a mess, you are still mildly depressed. LOL

[John Jamieson]

No kids! Similar life style! No wonder you didn't like the truth.

[ClancyJ]

Of course I will pray for you and for your wife and son. God will help you especially when you are doing His will and it is His will that you take care of your wife and son.

Yet, it is up to you. Apparently you have some problems or you would not have reached this point. Please find out what they are, face them and turn your life around. If you do not, the price is going to be very high for you, your wife and your son. It is grossly unfair to them as they need and depend on you.

With a college degree and a good work ethnic you should be able to find some kind of work.

If your problems include depression - get off your duff and see a doctor and get medication. It could mean the difference in helping your son or not being a father.

Good luck and may God bless all of you. Remember it is up to you to determine that YOU will find a job AND FIND ONE, YOU will support your family, YOU will take care of your child and wife.

[ClancyJ]

I understand your frustration. I too feel like shaking him. How could a woman love a blob that plays computer games while she has to feed and clothe the family and make a home for her son. Five years? A degree? Get real.

He needs to pray for forgiveness and help in pulling himself up, changing his motivations, getting a job and being a husband and father. God will help him but God also expects that help will result in him getting a job, supporting his family, realizing that he is not a teenager but a man with a wonderful child that needs a father.

Hope he is not just seeking a quick effort to show his wife he is trying.

I suggest seeing the doctor because I feel there is underlying depression. He needs to get the medication, start locating a job, change his work habits and forget about what he wants and show some results.

Of course we will pray with him and we will be thrilled when he becomes the man God meant him to be. However, it will be because he makes himself into that man - not us, not his wife, not his computer games. It all depends on him and he can make it work one simple step at a time.