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The Guild 11-6-2002 Celebrate Victory!!

Posted on 11/06/2002 8:31:38 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

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To: Iowa Granny
Root canal and windows all in the same day??? You are a glutton for punishment.

How 'bout coming over and raking my leaves?
121 posted on 11/08/2002 5:35:42 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: Endeavor
Yea right. How's about you meet me half way,,, we'll go to a bar and tell naughty jokes.
122 posted on 11/08/2002 5:43:26 PM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
It's early and I woke up thinking about Tom Daschle's obstructionism.

I know you'll all probably say "DUH!", but I can't think of one single peice of Rat legislation he brought to a vote in the Senate? If I'm not mistaken, they had the Senate for a year and a half and didn't advance even ONE of their policies. Amazing!

(Like I said, it's early.)
123 posted on 11/09/2002 3:41:42 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Endeavor
Have squeegee, will travel. Just send me a plane ticket. Uh-er, first class of course. ;-)
124 posted on 11/09/2002 4:50:19 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Timeout
Good Morning! Yes, little Tommy the Commie is an Obstuctionist.

Another great day in the Midwest. I spent a good deal of time outside yesterday clearing off garden beds. I can't finish the job today, but I sure can put a dent in it before it rains tonite.
125 posted on 11/09/2002 4:51:17 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Timeout
You know, I think you're right, not one piece of legislation that I can remember. Not even a budget. What has that man been up to? Certainly not getting dems elected!

Was Daschle leader before Lott took over in '94?

Good luck with the rat tricks concerning your governors race. Those numbers seem pretty telling, but rats have that uncanny way of looking at the color white and insisting it's black.

126 posted on 11/09/2002 5:00:02 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Was Daschle leader before Lott took over in '94?

Hmmm. I know George Mitchell was Majority Leader during the Papa Bush years. And I think he may have still been leader in '94. I just seem to recall his dour face on TV discussing Hill's disastrous "health care" plan.

127 posted on 11/09/2002 5:06:38 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout
Postscript: After leaving the Senate, Mr. Mitchell went on to paste together Clinton's "glorious achievement"...the North Ireland Peace Plan. You know, the one where they gave terrorists as seat at the governing table and invited them to the White House every St. Pat's Day. Of course the terrorists never disarmed and are now as big a threat as ever. That Northern Ireland agreement is now in tatters, but the bent one still goes around bragging about it.
128 posted on 11/09/2002 5:12:37 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Endeavor
I'm confused (nothing new) the French have their own resolution? I missed Tony's chat so I'm ignorant of what you're talking about. Read this story, it seems that GWB isn't going to wait around for any kind of shannigins that Saddam or France may try and pull.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) warned Iraq on Friday that it would face "the severest consequences" if it defies the terms of a U.N. Security Council resolution requiring Baghdad to disarm.

"The resolution approved today presents the Iraqi regime with a test, a final test. Iraq must now without delay or negotiations fully disarm," he said.

Shortly after the Security Council gave unanimous approval to a resolution Bush called for on Sept. 12, the president used threatening language against Iraq during an appearance at the White House, saying the United States will lead a coalition to disarm Iraq if it does not do so itself.

Bush said Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) must make no attempt to negotiate the resolution's terms for allowing U.N. inspectors back into the country.

"His cooperation must be prompt and unconditional or he will face the severest consequences," said Bush, with Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) standing beside him in the Rose Garden.

The 15-0 vote was a major victory for Bush, giving him international cover to carry out a tough policy against Baghdad if Saddam fails to get rid of any nuclear, chemical or biological weapons in his arsenal.

It came after the U.S. president repeatedly ridiculed the United Nations (news - web sites) that it risked becoming a "debating society" while warning Washington was prepared to act on its own.

Bush gave no sign that he felt obligated to return to the Security Council for approval of any military action should he judge it necessary.

U.S. FREE TO ATTACK

The resolution leaves Washington free to attack Iraq without a second formal U.N. resolution authorizing the use of force. But it requires the Security Council to assess any serious violation that could lead to war. [Is this what has you concerned?] [Does this conflict with the above paragraph in bold? Seems like the Security Council wants to be an important piece of the pie, but GWB isn't going to sweat it if he decides Iraq is not complying?]

"The United States has agreed to discuss any material breach with the Security Council, but without jeopardizing our freedom of action to defend our country," Bush said.

At a Pentagon (news - web sites) news conference with visiting German Defense Minister Peter Struck, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld warned Iraq to stop trying to shoot down U.S. and British warplanes patrolling "no-fly" zones over northern and southern Iraq as it has been doing for years.

But pressed by reporters, Rumsfeld said it would be up to Bush and the United Nations to decide whether such actions were a violation of the new resolution.

"There will be a number of opportunities in the coming weeks to discover their (Iraqi) intentions," Rumsfeld said. "Needless to say, Iraq ought not to take or threaten hostile action against inspectors or coalition aircraft upholding U.N. inspections."

A senior Bush administration official said the United States would join any subsequent discussions with the Security Council on whether Iraq was in violation, but would not let a debate stop Washington from taking military action.

"Those discussions might produce another resolution or might not. And while those discussions are taking place, and the United States will be a part of those discussions, the president has not lost any of his authority at some point to say, you know, 'I've got to act, and who wants to act with us?"' the official said.

BUSH-AVOID 'UNPRODUCTIVE DEBATES'

Fearing Saddam will attempt to confound U.N. weapons inspectors as he has in the past, Bush urged the Security Council not to "lapse into unproductive debates over whether specific instances of Iraqi noncompliance are serious. Any Iraqi noncompliance is serious."

"If we are to avert war, all nations must continue to pressure Saddam Hussein to accept this resolution and to comply with his obligations," he said.

In keeping with his desire for an international consensus, Bush did not mention the official U.S. policy of "regime change," instead emphasizing that Saddam must disarm.

A senior U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity at a White House briefing, laid down a low threshold for finding Iraq guilty of violating the resolution and said "we will know rather quickly whether or not they are cooperating."

It was clear the resolution would receive broad support after eight weeks of deliberations, but it was in doubt shortly before the vote whether it would be unanimous.

The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, John Negroponte, got the word that Syria would vote yes just as he went into the Security Council chamber.

"I think Syria just ultimately saw where their interests were in this matter," said a senior U.S. official.

Analysts said the yes vote by Syria was a shock for Saddam and an important signal that he will have trouble getting the Arab world behind him.

"That gives us great advantage in terms of getting the support and cooperation of all of the Arab world. I don't see that Saddam will have anybody on his side...," said former U.S. ambassador to Israel Martin Indyk.

Powell went through a blizzard of negotiations over minute details of the resolution language. He got word from French Foreign Minister Dominique Villepin of agreement from Paris on the meaning of the term "material breach" last Saturday when Powell's mobile phone went off 20 minutes before he walked down the aisle at daughter's wedding.

And on Friday, Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov called Powell at 9 a.m. EST (1400 GMT) with an abrupt comment in Russian to say Moscow was on board: "Khorosho, da (OK, yes)."

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129 posted on 11/09/2002 5:20:09 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Pubbies are going to have to get some testosterone injections to take on the Rats' "get out the vote" shenanigans:

The Carson Show

If we had a decent media, this kind of thing would get more attention.

130 posted on 11/09/2002 5:56:16 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout
It is maddening! Dims don't have an ounce of shame. On election day after I voted, I met up with a few freepers at a local corner on one of our busier intersections. We waved JEB! signs and American flags getting lots of honks. But the interesting part happened when a young black man walked up to us and asked where the nearest "voting place" was. ?????

We tried to explain that he needed to go to his precinct, that it would be printed on his voters registration card. He looked perplexed. Are you registered to vote we asked? He mumbled something about getting a provisional ballot and we gave up after hearing that, telling him we couldn't help him.

I guess he missed the dim bus. Crikey!! I think we should pray for rain each and every election day.

New Thread!

131 posted on 11/09/2002 6:27:43 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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