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Evidence Disproving Evolution
myself | 10/11/02 | gore3000

Posted on 10/11/2002 9:02:01 PM PDT by gore3000

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To: PatrickHenry

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Splifford the bat says: Always remember:

A mind is a terrible thing to waste; especially on an Darwininian.
Just say no to narcotic drugs, alcohol abuse, and corrupt ideological
doctrines.

401 posted on 10/13/2002 5:44:21 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
an=a

I fart in your general direction.

402 posted on 10/13/2002 5:47:34 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: All
[We evolution types interrupt this thread to bring you the following important message:]
George W. Bush is the greatest! Down with bolshevism! Defeat the socialistic dems! Win back the Senate! God bless America!
[And now, let the thread continue ... ]
403 posted on 10/13/2002 6:12:01 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: DWPittelli; gore3000
(Newton, the Bible) stated is true.

Well DNA evidence backs up the Bible.

NOVA Online | Lost Tribes of Israel | Tracing the Cohanim

According to biblical accounts, the Jewish priesthood began about 3,000 years ago when Moses anointed his older brother Aaron the first high priest. Ever since, the priestly status has been handed down from father to son through the ages.

If this hereditary tradition has been closely followed, the Y chromosomes of the Cohanim today should bear some resemblance to one another because of their unbroken link back to a common ancestor, Aaron.

Genetic studies among Cohanim from all over the world reveal the truth behind this oral tradition. About 50 percent of Cohanim in both Sephardic and Ashkenazic populations have an unusual set of genetic markers on their Y chromosome. What is equally striking is that this genetic signature of the Cohanim is rarely found outside of Jewish populations.

...

Cohanim chromosomes coalesce at a date that corresponds with when the priesthood is thought to have begun.

404 posted on 10/13/2002 6:17:01 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: f.Christian
For evolution to work, you have to have no brains. People who have evolution, don't have souls/brains/sense.

Still waiting to hear your theory.

405 posted on 10/13/2002 7:16:10 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; gore3000; Tribune7; f.Christian; Phaedrus; Heartlander; Terriergal; betty boop; ...
Still waiting to hear your theory.

Not a theory but this should differentiate you from others.

EMOR: Cohanim and The Illusion of Death

In his book on the laws of mourning ("Gesher Hachaim"), Rav Tokachinsky related the following parable in order to explain the Jewish view on life after death:

Twin brothers, fetuses in their mother's womb, enjoy their carefree life. Their world is dark and warm and protected. These twins are alike in all aspects but one. One brother is a 'believer' - he believes in an afterlife, in a future reality much different than their current, tiny universe. But the other brother is a skeptic. All he knows is the familiar world of the womb. Anything besides what he can feel and sense is an illusion. The skeptic tries to talk some sense into his brother, he warns him to be realistic, but to no avail. His brother naively insists on believing in an extraordinary world that exists after life in the womb, a world so immense and fantastic that it is transcends their wildest imaginings.

The months pass, and the fatal moment arrives. Labor begins. The fetuses are aware of tremendous contractions and shifting in their little world. The freethinker recognizes that 'this is it'; his short but pleasant life is about to end. He feels the forces pressuring him to go down, but he fights against them. He knows that outside the womb, a cruel death awaits, with no protective sack and no umbilical cord. Suddenly he realizes that his ingenuous brother is giving in to the forces around them. He is sinking!

"Don't give up!" he cries, but the innocent one takes no heed. "Where are you, my dear brother?!" he calls out. He shudders when he hears his brother screaming from outside the womb. His poor brother has met his cruel fate. How naive he was, with his belief in a bigger, better world!

Then the skeptic feels the uterine muscles pushing him out too, against his will, into the abyss. He screams out ...

"Mazal Tov!" calls out the doctor. "Two healthy baby boys!


406 posted on 10/13/2002 7:47:38 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
Thank you so very much for that precious story! Hugs!
407 posted on 10/13/2002 8:10:53 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: PatrickHenry
For those who want a "better" source for the proposition that Adolf Hitler was a creationist:

I almost missed this double B.S.

Still quoting Yoda as the expert. From your Stardestroyer.net expert.

More from the Hitler Expert.

Federation Government Structure
"The So'na have developed a procedure to collect the metaphasic particles from the planet's rings."- Admiral Dougherty
"A planet in Federation space."- Picard
"That's right. We have the planet, they have the technology. A technology we can't duplicate."- Dougherty
...
"With metaphasics, life spans will be doubled. An entire new medical science will evolve."- Dougherty
...
"There are metaphasic particles all over the Briar Patch. Why does it have to be this one planet?"- Picard
"It's the concentration in the rings that makes the whole damned thing work. Don't ask me to explain it- I only know they inject something into the rings that starts a thermolitic reaction. When it's over, the planet will be uninhabitable for generations."- Admiral
Analysis

We learned something very interesting about the Federation government structure in STI: the Federation considers all star systems within its borders to be its property, even if the Federation has never explored these systems and has established no contact whatsoever with their native societies. "We have the planet, they have the technology". Admiral Dougherty was not acting on his own- he had the approval of the Federation Council. This indicates that the decision to remove the Ba'ku from their world and render it uninhabitable to harvest the life-extending "metaphasic particles" was actually sanctioned at the highest levels of the Federation government.

The implications of this fact are far-ranging: the Federation, due to the limitations of warp drive, has not explored the vast majority of star systems in its own territory, particularly the regions of its territory which are far from its heavily populated areas (near their borders with the Romulan Star Empire and the Klingon Empire). However, they have arbitrarily drawn borders around a large region of space and they have staked sovereign claim to all of the systems in this territory!

This is very similar to the European colonists' behaviour when they invaded North America in the 17th and 18th centuries. They staked sovereign claim to most of the continent in the name of their monarch, simply by virtue of declaring that it belonged to them. They had not explored this land, nor had they negotiated any sort of ownership transfer with the natives. When they found natives occupying the land that they had unreasonably staked claim to, they simply removed them by force (sometimes sanctifying their behaviour by talking them into signing treaties they didn't understand, so they would have paper justification). Similarly, the Federation has apparently staked claim to a large region of space even though it has not explored or colonized most of it, and inconvenient occupants of that territory can be forcibly moved out of their homes if the Federation decides to seize control of their systems.

Further ramifications

And I repeat

Adolf the Darwinist

Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler

Volume One - A Reckoning
Chapter XI: Nation and Race

In both cases, Nature looks on calmly, with satisfaction, in fact. In the struggle for daily bread all those who are weak and sickly or less determined succumb, while the struggle of the males for the female grants the right or opportunity to propagate only to the healthiest. And struggle is always a means for improving a species' health and power of resistance and, therefore, a cause of its higher development.

Straight out of the Darwinist Handbook.

408 posted on 10/13/2002 8:13:36 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: balrog666
1. The "habitability' of the Earth is entirely unrelated to direction or strength of it's magnetic field.

We'll be interested to learn of your fate as you try to colonize Jupiter or a magnetic star some day. Be sure to send us a post card. You are obviously sufficiently unaware of the part Earth's magnetic field plays in deflecting harmful solar activity. If I were you, I'd write to your bursar back at Starfleet Academy and ask for a refund.

2. The Earth's magnetic field has reversed itself many times in the past. It is always waxing or waning in one direction or the other.

In one direction or another, perhaps. No argumant there. Blinded by your mockery, the point lost on your inability to read and which you subsequently failed to address was that I was speaking of the inherent strength of the moment, not its position, which is tracked, and has found to be diminishing over time at a measurably and remarkably consistent rate.

409 posted on 10/13/2002 9:23:33 PM PDT by Agamemnon
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To: *crevo_list
Index ping.
410 posted on 10/13/2002 10:30:07 PM PDT by scripter
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To: f.Christian
I use p*** off parties for... lighter---fluid!

Which you then, evidently, imbibe.

412 posted on 10/14/2002 2:20:55 AM PDT by Junior
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To: AndrewC
Of course you wouldn't mention his quotes actually came from Mein Kampf, would you, as that might destroy what little credibility you could salvage from your position.
413 posted on 10/14/2002 2:24:50 AM PDT by Junior
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To: PatrickHenry
The implication of common ancestry for any two species

No, it is not. Cows bear cows, dogs bear dogs, humans bear humans. We see this every day. We do not see, have never seen a species transform itself into another.

414 posted on 10/14/2002 4:56:49 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
I think there is actually more to this than mere temporal coincidence.

Nonsense. The abolition movement had started long before Darwin ever published the Origin. In addition, England had been promoting abolition for decades before the Origin. If that were not enough, there is nothing in evolution supporting abolition. The racism is patent throughout Darwin's work:

"I could show fight on natural selection having done and doing more for the progress of civilization than you seem inclined to admit. Remember what risk the nations of Europe ran, not so many centuries ago of being overwhelmed by the Turks, and how ridiculous such an idea now is! The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world."
Darwin to Graham, July 3, 1881.

In man the frontal bone consists of a single piece, but in the embryo, and in children, and in almost all the lower mammals, it consists of two pieces separated by a distinct suture. ~~This suture occasionally persists more or less distinctly in man after maturity; and more frequently in ancient than in recent crania, especially, as Canestrini has observed, in those exhumed from the Drift, and belonging to the brachycephalic type. Here again he comes to the same nclusion as in the analogous case of the malar bones. In this, and other instances presently to be given, the cause of ancient races approaching the lower animals in certain characters more frequently than do the modern races, appears to be, that the latter stand at a somewhat greater distance in the long line of descent from their early semi-human progenitors.
Darwin, Descent of Man, Chapter 2.

415 posted on 10/14/2002 5:05:25 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
I say it because you don't recognize any scientific process. You discount observational evidence and you have no statement of your alternate theory.

EVOLUTION HAS NEVER BEEN OBSERVED, NEVER


I have also stated my alternate theory many times. Briefly: species are tremendously adaptable. They have a large gene pool which enables them to adapt to different environmental circumstances. This is how they were designed by their creator.

416 posted on 10/14/2002 5:14:09 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: Junior
but then top-notch biologists don't have a beef with evolution...

Just repeating the same old lies. I guess Francis Crick the discoverer of DNA is not a top-notch biologist?:

"An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going" (1981, p. 88, emp. added). "
from: Review of US News Article on Evolution.

417 posted on 10/14/2002 5:24:03 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
G3k doesn't like -- or understand -- these quotes,

Lying as usual. I guess that you, an inveterate atheist, understand the Christian religion better than Christians? The Pope's encyclical specifically says that any theory which states that man was created by material means is false.

If the human body take its origin from pre-existent living matter, the spiritual soul is immediately created by God. Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider the SPIRIT as emerging from the forces of living matter or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter, are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person."

To properly understand the above we need to understand what epephenomenon means.

epiphenomenon, n, a secondary phenomenon accompanying another and caused by it.

Reading the above paragraph after understanding what epiphenomenon means one sees that he is saying, very clearly that man did not descend from lower species - the central theme of Darwinian evolution. In the next paragraph he says:

"With man, then, we find ourselves in the presence of an ontological difference, an ontological leap, ".

ontology, n, 1. a branch of metaphysics relating to the nature and relations of being. 2. a particular theory about the nature of being or the kinds of existence.

He is saying that man is beyond the realm of the physical, that man exists in the realm of the divine, not the material. He clearly states further that the Bible is the guide to man and the meaning of life. Further he had made prior to this the assertion that materialistic views are not acceptable and the following is to the point:

" In other terms, the human individual cannot be subordinated as a pure means or a pure instrument, either to the species or to society; he has value per se. He is a person. With his intellect and his will, he is capable of forming a relationship of communion, solidarity and self-giving with his peers. St. Thomas observes that man's likeness to God resides especially in his speculative intellect, for his relationship with the object of his knowledge resembles God's relationship with what he has created."

418 posted on 10/14/2002 5:42:41 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: betty boop
But then, comes along in the nineteenth century a thoroughly atavistic work entitled The Descent of Man. If anything, this book can be fairly understood as a recursion to a more primitive state of mind. IMHO it does not represent an evolution of human consciousness, but a devolution, a recursion, a “throwback” to a more savage past. Clearly it legitimates the practice of eugenics. And when you boil it all down, there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the practice of eugenics and “ethnic cleansing.”

Great point! Moreover, what the evolutionists always ignore, is that Darwinism laid the foundation for Hitler's mass murders in the public mind. It legitimized such views. It called them science. Therefore Hitler just reaped what Darwin had sowed.

419 posted on 10/14/2002 5:48:23 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
it's sufficient for my purposes in debating those who claim that evolution is anti-Christian.

Materialistic Darwinian evolution is indeed anti-Christian and the Pope said so. Now what intrigues me Patrick is why you, a virulent atheist, should care a hoot about what the Pope says.

420 posted on 10/14/2002 5:52:06 AM PDT by gore3000
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