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Posted on 09/11/2002 3:16:09 PM PDT by Mo1

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To: ValerieUSA
That is a kewl picture
341 posted on 09/13/2002 6:48:42 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: MaligneInterceptor
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/nation/1573224

Sept. 12, 2002, 11:20PM

2 pilots face charges in mistaken bombing
Four Canadian soldiers killed in attack

By ROBERT BURNS ... Associated Press
WASHINGTON -- The Air Force is recommending criminal charges against two Air National Guard pilots for their role in the fatal bombing of Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan, a senior defense official said Thursday.

The charges were to be announced today at the Pentagon after the U.S. Central Command and the Canadian government released additional details from a joint investigation of the April 17 tragedy.

The senior defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the Air Force would recommend that F-16 pilot Maj. Harry Schmidt be charged with involuntary manslaughter. He dropped a 500-pound bomb on a group of Canadian soldiers, mistaking them for enemy forces. Four Canadians were killed and eight were wounded.

The Air Force also is recommending Schmidt be charged with failure to exercise appropriate flight discipline.

Maj. William Umbach, the lead pilot, would face charges of aiding and abetting Schmidt in the involuntary manslaughter, the official said. As lead pilot, he should have more forcefully intervened to stop Schmidt from dropping the bomb until confirmation of the target was received, the Air Force says.

The charges were first reported Thursday night by NBC News.

Because Schmidt and Umbach are members of the Illinois Air National Guard and are no longer mobilized under federal authority, they would have to be recalled to active duty to face the charges.

It was unclear Thursday whether the recommended charges against them will be considered under Article 32 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice -- essentially like a grand jury proceeding in the civilian judicial system -- or will be taken directly to a court martial.

The inadvertent killings caused a public uproar in Canada. The joint U.S.-Canadian investigation faulted both pilots for failure to follow established procedures to ensure that they attacked a legitimate target.

Central Command publicly released the basic findings of the investigation in June but did not release details. It said it needed more time to remove classified information from the report.

342 posted on 09/13/2002 7:00:21 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Did you also hea the President answer the 3 questins from the press before his meeting began? He was GOOD! The deadlines for the UN to act are measured in days and weeks now - not months and years. If they can't manage, then they prove their irrelevance as a world body. WOW!

No I missed that..darn it. I must have been on the phone.. I hope they repeat it..

343 posted on 09/13/2002 7:12:49 AM PDT by grannie9
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To: grannie9
Some genuine disdain for the UN came through this morning. President Bush not only holds out little hope for Saddam to comply with UN resolutions based on eleven years of ignoring them, the unspoken message was that he doesn't expect the UN to do anything, based on the same eleven years of impotence.
344 posted on 09/13/2002 7:18:59 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
If they can't manage, then they prove their irrelevance as a world body. WOW!

Get out .. he said that

Ummmm seems like the UN is being taken out to the woodshed for sure

345 posted on 09/13/2002 7:23:25 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: ValerieUSA
Gee, I wonder why he'd feel that way? Why don't the media ask Clinton and the UN why they let Iraq get away with it this long..?

Oh right.... stupid question..

Back to the drawing board....
346 posted on 09/13/2002 7:25:00 AM PDT by grannie9
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To: Mo1
He didn't bother with subtlety. *L* It was GREAT!
347 posted on 09/13/2002 7:25:21 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Gotta love them Texans .. they don't mince words .. LOL
348 posted on 09/13/2002 7:26:22 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: grannie9
Morning Grannie
349 posted on 09/13/2002 7:26:58 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
Morning Big Mo... Keep it in your sneaker, it's Friday the 13th... Jeeze, what a start to the weekend..
350 posted on 09/13/2002 7:28:53 AM PDT by grannie9
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To: grannie9
The news gets worse:

Reuters | Sept 13 2002
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - A blistering rally on cocoa markets is starting to hit the wallets of chocolate lovers, with prices of pure, rich products climbing the most. Reuters Photo Addicts who savor the intense semi-sweet taste of chocolate with high cocoa content are likely to shell out more in coming months as speculators show no signs of curbing a buying frenzy that has kept cocoa prices hovering at 15-year highs.
351 posted on 09/13/2002 7:32:55 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: grannie9
I got engaged on a Friday the 13th and so for I survived

It'll be ok .. not to worry
352 posted on 09/13/2002 7:33:26 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: ValerieUSA
I just saw this comment on the other thread .. Oh poor little tommy ... FOFL

Chuckling, the president said he could not imagine being an elected member of Congress and saying, "Vote for me and, oh, on matters of national security, I think I'm going to want somebody else to act."

353 posted on 09/13/2002 7:34:53 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: MaligneInterceptor
The Dow is falling -- it should be SOARING! Limp weenies in the stock market today.
355 posted on 09/13/2002 7:39:20 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: MaligneInterceptor
Don't you just love a President with a brass pair!

And I thank God every day

356 posted on 09/13/2002 7:40:13 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: operation clinton cleanup
I'm sure you meant Europions....

Euroscorpions?...

357 posted on 09/13/2002 7:51:38 AM PDT by null and void
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To: Mo1
I got engaged on a Friday the 13th and so for I survived

It'll be ok .. not to worry

I was born on a Friday the 13th...

358 posted on 09/13/2002 7:58:26 AM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void
Well that explains a lot of things ... giggle
359 posted on 09/13/2002 8:04:19 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
wadderyersayin???
360 posted on 09/13/2002 8:07:02 AM PDT by null and void
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