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Elizabeth Smart thread, August 31-September 7, 2002

Posted on 08/31/2002 10:26:34 AM PDT by IamHD

My prayers go out to the Ricci family during this time. RR was sent up the river and used as a scape-goat. No evidence, whatsoever, linking him to the disappearance of Elizabeth.

May he rest in peace.


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To: varina davis
I can't answer your questions that you asked on this on this board, I'm sure you understand due to the case.
842 posted on 09/04/2002 7:36:03 PM PDT by Bella
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To: Jolly Green
And that is the defense of your lame post?

I don't need to defend my posts.

Don't you ever get bored using the same old cliches over and over?

843 posted on 09/04/2002 7:37:12 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: Bella
I can't answer your questions that you asked on this on this board, I'm sure you understand due to the case.

Bella, they were rhetorical. Just venting a bit -- I am so outraged.

844 posted on 09/04/2002 7:39:21 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: Sherlock
"There is nothing significant."

I saw that too. It sure seems significant to me. I don't know what to make of it at this point. Good catch yesterday though. I think our pig roaster could be very significant.

Did you watch LKL tonight? Angela almost gagged when they asked her if she would waive Richard's attorney client privilege. She looked like she was swallowing a rock.

845 posted on 09/04/2002 7:40:37 PM PDT by sandude
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To: jengaio
I'd even *like* to agree with you, but I'm saying that I detected no evidence of subterfuge.

Even if you were right, that doesn't exonerate Ricci. I thought she was particularly deceptive about the jeep.

846 posted on 09/04/2002 7:41:12 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: varina davis
And exactly what could Ed Smart have done to change the treatment Ricci received in prison? You act as if Ed and Lois determined how Ricci would be treated once inside jail. Ricci was a habitual criminal who threatened peoples lives at gunpoint during a holdup, he was a habitual criminal for 30 years, and never went straight. He was paroled how many times, and kept breaking the law. And he broke the rules of his probation. The most charming people I have known in my life have been drug addicts, they can turn the charm on when they have money and can get their fixes, but watch out if they don't have money or drugs, the whole ugly side of their personalities will be displayed.
847 posted on 09/04/2002 7:43:05 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: sandude
Angela is probably counting big time on client-attorney privilege. Just MHO, because I haven't seen the interview yet.
848 posted on 09/04/2002 7:44:10 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Sherlock
I'll tell you this Sherlock, out of all the people on the peripheral of this crime the guy the milkman saw is the most likely to be connected to the crime.
849 posted on 09/04/2002 7:44:20 PM PDT by sandude
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To: varina davis
Don't you ever get bored using the same old cliches over and over?

Do you always have to have the last word? Don't you ever get tired of defending the indefensible?

851 posted on 09/04/2002 7:46:31 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: Utah Girl
And exactly what could Ed Smart have done to change the treatment Ricci received in prison? You act as if Ed and Lois determined how Ricci would be treated once inside jail.

Ed Smart has spoken out about everything and anything else in this case. I do not believe the Smarts EVER thought Ricci had anything to do with the case.

852 posted on 09/04/2002 7:46:39 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: jengaio
Doesn't mean Ricci wasn't involved. That would be almost impossible, given the evidence.

What evidence? There is no evidence. No forensic evidence. No witness. No confession. Nothing.

853 posted on 09/04/2002 7:50:54 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis
Then why did Ed Smart practically beg Richard Ricci to tell the truth about what happened? I do think that Ed couldn't believe at first that Ricci would have anything to do with the abduction, but as the circustantial evidence began to pile up, he was forced into thinking that Ricci had a hand in the abduction.
854 posted on 09/04/2002 7:51:38 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: varina davis
I'd bet the south 40 that Angela gained a huge, supportive following tonight -- as well she should.

Yes, this is the America that Bill and Hillary conned for eight years.

855 posted on 09/04/2002 7:51:53 PM PDT by sandude
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To: All
I will just type highlights in brief statements...transcript will be there tomorrow.

He was transported to U of U Hospital

Angela consulted with the Doctor

She didn't know if the Dr. said he had a 50/50 chance, or if that was the press

TAlked about funeral, read obituary, read Psalm

Richard was always guarded in prison

He was shackled..and the shackles were not taken off until HE WAS DEAD.

King asked if this stress caused his death. She answered he was under alot of pressure

He was housed next to death row

He was not charged with anything

Served a sack lunch, breakfast, lunch and dinner

She said Richard told the police everything..he just didn't tell them WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR.

He had respect for Mr. Smart

He was heartbroken for the family

She said the police tried to get her to turn against her husband

She has not been given the results of Richard's polygraph

She talked with Mr. Smart at the hearing, and she said she told him Richard never had the Jeep, in fact Moul had 3 Jeeps there.

Her little boy called Richard his "Bestest Dad" they had a good relationship and did alot of things together.

She only saw him one time in prison. Then she had to make a written request to see him and it takes a long time to get permission in prison. (Garagos confirmed that)

She said he was targeted. He was innocent.

She had testemony on phone and letters, I believe from his employer, people he worked with, ex-girlfriends etc. stating their belief in him

She said they looked for injuries to his head and found none. Doctor said it was from "inside" the brain

NANCY GRACE...was disgraceful at the onset ! I felt sorry for Angela

Geragos said that even if they find someone, that person will dump it on Ricci..it is just what they do, and Ricci will not get out from under the cloud even if he is innocent. Unless E. comes home safe.

She said the Jeep is a mystery, not a key. She said the Jeep never had any seatcovers.

She said he was never unaccounted for the week the jeep was returned. She knows where he was all the time. His employer vouched for him also.

She was asked on the phone if she was on medication the night E. was taken...She looked angry, but composed and said " NO ! I was NOT on medication that night! "

She said she saw an extensive autopsey. Richard wanted to be cremated.

She talked about the Smarts, and said " They are doing what they have to do"

NANCY GRACE SAID...DRUM ROLL....THE SMARTS WERE RULED OUT AS SUSPECTS !

Mark Garagos commended Angela, that she has shown courage. END____________________________________________

I am tired and am not correcting typo's or phonics.

856 posted on 09/04/2002 7:52:57 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: varina davis
Yep, just circumstantial evidence of Ricci's MO of cat burglary, of going into children's bedrooms during the burglaries. Just his confession to not only taking items from the Smarts home, but also confessing to breaking into homes in Federal Heights. Yes, it is circumstantial evidence, but it is quite startling.
857 posted on 09/04/2002 7:54:22 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
I do think that Ed couldn't believe at first that Ricci would have anything to do with the abduction, but as the circustantial evidence began to pile up, he was forced into thinking that Ricci had a hand in the abduction.

Ed is mistaken. I expect he'll do what he thinks he has to do.

858 posted on 09/04/2002 7:54:31 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
Yes, this is the America that Bill and Hillary conned for eight years.

Are saying the American people are now being conned by George W. Bush, given his 70 percent approval rating?

860 posted on 09/04/2002 7:55:41 PM PDT by varina davis
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