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Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)
Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

Posted on 08/16/2002 6:39:20 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: Politicalmom
Thanks, I'd make sure you had an open line to Feldy!
1,481 posted on 08/17/2002 11:46:17 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Politicalmom; Jrabbit
We would be badgering Feldy at all hours with exonerating evidence. : )

3am is best. :-)

1,482 posted on 08/17/2002 11:46:43 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Rheo
Man, I bet his wife HATES you!! : )
1,483 posted on 08/17/2002 11:49:01 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: cyncooper
The quote I remember is that the carpet drop was destroyed during testing and that's why it was not photographed. Even that makes no sense. Why wouldn't you photograph it before you destroyed it?

I think Dusek's saying "Blood" when he means DNA. I wish Feldman had hit this stuff harder than he did.
1,484 posted on 08/17/2002 11:50:01 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: cyncooper
Remember that opening and closing statements are not evidence. The jury can't even ask for a readback of them.
1,485 posted on 08/17/2002 11:51:59 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: fatima
Fatima, that's really, really nice. I think. Is it? Never mind.
1,486 posted on 08/17/2002 11:52:06 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: fatima
Scotland
1,487 posted on 08/17/2002 11:52:39 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
I wasn't representing it as evidence. Just asking for a source for Jaded's claim that the defense did not have an opportunity to do their own testing.

The excerpt is referencing the jacket in particular, btw.

1,488 posted on 08/17/2002 11:54:16 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Politicalmom
Man, I bet his wife HATES you!! : )

Nawww....I learned to bring chocolates during that little restraining order ordeal...I'm growing on her.:-)

1,489 posted on 08/17/2002 11:54:49 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: cyncooper
Sometimes we have to read between the lines. I assume that if the stain was used for DNA testing that it is no longer suitable for serology testing, since the prosecution has the sole burden of proof and didn't do the serology.
1,490 posted on 08/17/2002 11:58:37 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
John,I thought we were Buds.
1,491 posted on 08/18/2002 12:01:29 AM PDT by fatima
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To: fatima
We were until you threw logic out the window.
1,492 posted on 08/18/2002 12:05:19 AM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: rolling_stone
I guarantee you with very few exceptions defense attorneys recommend their client not testify.

Click here for one prosecutor's analysis of this question. He gloats about defendants "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" by taking the stand.

1,493 posted on 08/18/2002 12:21:26 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: domestice
...and DW's RV was sitting there til he left saturday morning.

Westerfield said he got up at 0630, showered, and drove in his Toyota 4Runner to fetch the motorhome from its rented parking space, 8.5 miles away. Based on witnesses' testimony, the motorhome arrived in the neighborhood around 0830. Check out Court TV's timeline.

1,494 posted on 08/18/2002 12:38:53 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: John Jamieson
The quote I remember is that the carpet drop was destroyed during testing and that's why it was not photographed. Even that makes no sense. Why wouldn't you photograph it before you destroyed it?

The carpet fibers were disturbed during testing. the carpet is still available to be retested, just not in the original condition.
All of the photographs were taken after testing. No way to view the stains in the original context. This was sloppy work.

1,495 posted on 08/18/2002 1:30:47 AM PDT by dread78645
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To: tippytoes
What is your theory on what happened to Danielle? I've been torn about this case, too. It's too creepy to be so easily solved.

My theory on Danelle is that Westerfield had nothing to do with it.

* My instinct is to look for a connection between Damon Van Dam and that international porn ring and would find out the purpose of that cable that the Demon jerked out before the cops could examine it. Could he have been sharing sexual abuse on his daughter like the other fathers who belonged to that ring? Did he use the cable to do it?

* Then I would iluminol that spot on the floor that he steam cleaned, claiming the dog wet on the floor.

* Then I would find out whose unidentified finger prints they are, as well as the unidentified blood on the staircase and outside on the cement.

* Then I would find out where the dog bed went to and if it was the means of carrying off Danielle's body.

* There's a lot more "thens", but one of the most important is ... then I would find out whose unidentified DNA was in her bed !!! It was not Westerfield's.

In addition ...

* I would question the "coincidence" of Van Dam and his friend who flew in from Florida being in the vicinity of where her body was found on the day the bug evidence indicates her body was dumped in that spot.

* I would find that blue van of his that he got rid of so fast that was BLUE (blue paint was found under Danielle's fingernails).

There's more - a WHOLE LOT more - but that will get you to thinking, maybe.

I would like to be sure to point out though that there is no forensic evidence of Westerfield in the Van Dam house. The dogs did not hit on the motor home as to Danielle's scent, nor did the dogs did not hit on Westerfield in the Van Dam home.

Oh, did I tell you that the policeman who interviewed him and got the warrants is the same policeman who has been proven to planting evidence on innocent people in the past? There are hints and clues that he did the same thing to Westerfield. Too long to summarize here.

Anyway, I summoned you to this thread instead of the one you pinged me on. I thought maybe you'd like to read further to add to the short synopsis above.

Good luck. These threads have been going on daily for MONTHS. Takes a long time to get through them. But this thread is a good place to start, even if it is at the end. If you have any questions, just holler. Somebody will be pleased to answer anything you are confused about.

1,496 posted on 08/18/2002 1:55:33 AM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: fatima
My husband is half Irish and Italian, also. It must be something about the combination. He has problems with grammar, too. Just kidding!!
1,497 posted on 08/18/2002 2:59:26 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: rolling_stone
Place two or three drops of distilled water or physiological saline (0.85%) onto a sterile, cotton swab and rub over the stained area, transferring as much of the stained substance as possible onto the swab.

These were the exact steps that I came up with to transfer a dried bloodstain. (For evidence planting purposes.) Distilled water and smear. Looks like genetictechnologies approves of my methods!
1,498 posted on 08/18/2002 4:35:38 AM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: cynwoody
Yes, thanks for clearing that up...too many details, I'm losing track...! :)
1,499 posted on 08/18/2002 5:41:17 AM PDT by domestice
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To: JudyB1938
Hey Judy -

How about the wall of protection that went up around good old Gary Condit's "private" life? Remember the flight attendants comments about the activities at his apartment in (A.C.)D.C.?
1,500 posted on 08/18/2002 5:54:38 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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