Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)

Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

[sawsalimb]

Dessicate means to dry out,or dehydrate. Dissect means to slice up.

After a day spent clearing brush on the ranch,I am dessicatedand require gin and tonic.

[bvw]

1. If I were leaning to a "guilty" verdict, I would have assumed that the body was moved by a predator, perhaps drug out of a garbage bag or something.
2. If I were leaning to a "not guilty" verdict, I would have figured she was killed, decayed elsewhere and then moved by the perp.

Excellent example of the difference between presumption of innocence and presumption of guilt. You, as a juror, have sworn an oath to apply presumption of innocence. In honor of that oath -- even if it disagrees with your gut feeling, your intuition, however strong those may be -- you must apply the second, the one that best supports a presumption of not guilty.

[MizSterious]

You wrote in Post #872:

"OOOHHH...tough guy. Screw you. I know just as much about this trial as you. I have a different opinion. Sue me."

Oh, so this is the "high class" thread? Yeah, that's a post with class alright--all of it low, but class nonetheless. I thought these kinds of flames were only permitted in smokey backrooms?

LOL!!

...one can certainly be forgiven for suspecting that the moderators favor certain "pets"....Demsux' post removed...Hildy's left standing...

[spectre]

"...aren't welcome without resorting to personal attacks and flames"...."posts like that aren't welcome here".

OK, Admin Moderator. But in all fairness, don't you think that when a Poster attacks another one with "Screw You" and "sue me"..that isn't material that belongs in the Smokey Backroom too?

sw

[bvw]

'Twas Hildy who set the fire, Marshall.

[Rheo]

If the 1/26 receipt was found by the cops with the 2/4 receipt...had he not picked up those items yet?

[spectre]

Duhhhh....you think so? :~)

sw

[CAPPSMADNESS]

"could of she died from a stab wound or a .22 gunshot if the stab wound was in the frount of the stomache or the gunshot from say left to right close to the front of the cavity all the wound chanel as well as exit and entrance wound would/could of been eaten by the animals"

This is something that I have thought about also, but as I am not a ballistics expert, I can only guess. A 22 is a small calib. gun, and a child would definitely die if being shot with one. It may/may not exit the body. If it did exit the body, there would be a pretty good deal of blood at the scene, but if it didn't, the victim would bleed internally and leave very little blood at the scene. The abdomen would swell as blood loss occurs. Bleeding out into the abdominal cavity is a very painful way to die. But it would seem to me that there would still be powder burns and shrapnel in/on the body. As far a a stab wound goes, it is yet another possibility - but it would seem to me that there would have been marks on the underlying bone to indicate such. As far as HOW this child died, it is anyones guess as I did not read any clear evidence pointing to cause, with the exception of fluid in the lungs - which also can occur during decomp. Although I am amazed that the lungs were in the condition that they were if as the prosecution claims, the child was 3+ weeks dead. There are reasons for this - but it's a little too gross to go into.

[pinz-n-needlez]

'Morning Rheo.

When I looked at those receipts, (thanks Cynwoody!)the one from the 26th indicated that the order would be ready on Tuesday.

Maybe he was on his way out the door when Brenda came by to sell cookies and check out his knobs.

Could be he lost track of what errands he had planned to do after that. Happens to me all the time, when I'm thrown off my routine.

[itsahoot]

Hey!...I've eaten possum.

Them was the good old days, greasy and sweet as I recall. [:<)

[domestice]

thanks, that is what I thought.

[Rheo]

Morning Pinz!

So DW didn't use the claim receipt when he picked up the laundry, they must have just given him the stuff cuz they knew him?

The affidavits show BVD told them the cookie day was 1/30..Wednesday.

So is/was there a 3rd claim check receipt found?

[itsahoot]

I could tell stories, but won't.

I am sure some on the board will appreciate that,

Hogs serve the same purpose in some parts of the mid West as alligators

[domestice]

I wish someone would have shouted that off a rooftop, like the media was touting supposed evidence against DW.

Do you know offhand if Dusek specifically brought this up to the jury, (the dogs found no scent of DW at VD residence) or just left it? He probably did bring this up, I just did not see/hear the testimony. thanks

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for your post!!!

Truly, the jury should give DW the presumption of innocence.

But the "rule of law" has suffered greatly these days. IMHO, the courts worked best when the witnesses, jurors and judges saw their task as a sacred duty, believing that God would attend even their private thoughts.

Without that reverence, I suspect their greatest concern will be self-serving – that is, what error they can live with: letting a innocent man be convicted, or letting a guilty man go free (like Avila.)

[Freedom2specul8]

You both are correct of course. I misread it as dissection--twas gettin late. (embarrassed grin)

[CAPPSMADNESS]

"one can certainly be forgiven for suspecting that the moderators favor certain "pets"....Demsux' post removed...Hildy's left standing..."

I thought that a bit obvious also, I REALLY didn't want to believe it was true and have tried hard to be VERY objective when it comes to the Moderators and supposed "favorites" - but after the post from hildy, and a few others earlier on, I guess what everyone's been saying is true. :(

I can't begin to explain how it makes me feel.....

[Freedom2specul8]

Truth is obviously subjective on some of the issues...

[Rheo]

IIRC, Feldman did bring up the fact the dogs did not scent on DW in the VD home...he better have anyway.