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Jurors To Hear Recorded Westerfield Tapes: Mudd Still Wrestling With Media! (VERDICT WATCH-Aug.14th)
Union Trib ^ | August 14, 2002 | San Diego Staff

Posted on 08/13/2002 10:12:33 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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Why do conservatives eat their own.

If I have time I intend to call in and use these Westerfield threads as my basis. I have never seen such horrible treatment of other long time members and activists of this great forum.

I also believe this is why your threads have been put into chat. Whenever someone new comes along and gives their opinion they are branded.

I am just glad I didnt waste over 6 months on one issue that in all reality is not going to change a damn thing when that verdict comes in.

Again for the record I believe DW is innocent and that the Van Dams ( both parents) while reckless are not responsible for the actual death of their child.

481 posted on 08/14/2002 3:04:21 PM PDT by alisasny
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Thanks for passing the email along. Who sent the
email? You can email me with an answer.

It doesn't matter in *which order* the jury has made
requests. I was only comparing *what* was asked
for & matching them up with Feldman's closings.
It's the only way I know how to read "tea leaves."
482 posted on 08/14/2002 3:06:39 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Hair similar to Danielle van Dam's was found on sheets in David Westerfield's bedroom, and authorities found fibers in his motor home that appear to match fibers from the girl's bedroom carpet, a criminalist testified yesterday.

Also, hairs similar to the van Dams' family dog were found in Westerfield's house, his motor home and on a comforter he dropped off at a dry cleaner, criminalist Tanya DuLaney said.

DuLaney, who works in the San Diego Police Department crime lab, testified on a day when prosecutors used charts and blow-up photos in an attempt to show that traces of the 7-year-old girl were scattered throughout Westerfield's domain

You know, I'm sure that it's just a coincidence, but if the hairs were not Danielle's, and the fiber were not a match, and the dog hairs were not Layla's, these people might not be found guilty for perjury or falsifying evidence, because of the way it is phrased.

Kim, I can't tell you how happy I am to see you back(because I am trying to be polite after my last ranting post).

483 posted on 08/14/2002 3:07:43 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: the Deejay
The Kidnap/murder charge is separate from the porn charge. You're probably right. They probably came to a conclusion on the kidnap/murder charge already. They would not start with the lesser charge, in my opinion. Seems like things are winding down. Should report verdict soon.
484 posted on 08/14/2002 3:08:49 PM PDT by KnutCase
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To: alisasny
The reason these threads have been put into Chat is the same reason that threads like the Elizabeth Smart case have been put into chat. It has nothing to do with wrathful comments.

And did it occur to you that by complaining on the radio show about other FReepers, you are doing exactly what you are castigating others for?
485 posted on 08/14/2002 3:09:04 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: AppyPappy
If he had testified and was innocent, he would already be walking free.

But all the defense lawyers do not want their client to testify and advise against it.

But I agree, he should have testified.

486 posted on 08/14/2002 3:09:34 PM PDT by carenot
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To: Yeti
So what. He said what he said, and I know what I know. He has called for a man's death. He demonstrated his COMPLETE IGNORANCE OF THE CASE IN HIS POST.

Worth repeating. This time in the congress-critters font:

So what. He said what he said, and I know what I know. He has called for a man's death. He demonstrated his COMPLETE IGNORANCE OF THE CASE IN HIS POST.


487 posted on 08/14/2002 3:09:44 PM PDT by BullDog108
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I was sent this via freepmail by someone who has no desire to post on the threads anymore. I volunteered to post this for him/her.

Why won't cyncooper post here anymore?

488 posted on 08/14/2002 3:09:46 PM PDT by demsux
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To: the Deejay
I'm sorry, they requested that I don't share.. They didn't tell me to post it to you in particular btw..just to all in general who were discussing it.

Your points are all great...but I would suspect that feldman's motivation is to not be on the defensive about what dusek's brought forth...otherwise it could backfire.

Did you get to hear the closing arguments? I still haven't had time to read them. The reason I ask is cuz I would like to know if feldman ever said his client was innocent or not guilty. (atty's are bound by oath to not say their clients are not guilty if the defendants admit guilt)
489 posted on 08/14/2002 3:11:45 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Jaded
Similar means MitDNA which also means Brenda, Derrick, Danielle and Damon. Ooops, I did it again. ;-)

Actually, in this particular quote, it doesn't even mean that. It just means blonde.

490 posted on 08/14/2002 3:12:04 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: demsux
Who cares?
491 posted on 08/14/2002 3:12:11 PM PDT by BullDog108
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To: KnutCase
I wasn't thinking about which order the jury is
going in. I only picked out things at random
and researched them with Feldman's closings.

Wouldn't have a clue as to "order". I think
if one wanted to research order, go to the
ctv page with the order in which the charges
against DW were given to them.
492 posted on 08/14/2002 3:13:00 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: JudyB1938
Actually I am trying to figure out why freepers attack other freepers in such a caustic manner.

I can pick any given day any Westerfield thread and see it happen.

Sadly it appears to be happening on these threads the most.

How many got banned for posting on these threads ect?

There is debating in a logical manner and then what I have seen here. It is akin to the Rivero threads from the past.

Today for example, many of you had a chance to ask CBB questions in order to better understand his claim yet how many insulting posts were left to him but no other then the authorities who claimed they never heard of him before.

Are some of you grouping on FR just for Van Dam case?

493 posted on 08/14/2002 3:13:07 PM PDT by alisasny
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To: the Deejay
One of the police computer experts who testified in the prelim stated that he saw no prepubescent children in any of the images.
494 posted on 08/14/2002 3:13:07 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: Yeti
I'm not sure that's a good thing! (can't tell for sure what ya mean) I am glad to know you yeti. hey, it helps to keep a brown sack next to the monitor. You can breathe into it when your blood pressure goes up and your breathing gets faster..before you type!

If the source and found fibers were known to be an exact match, the criminalist is instructed to not say "they are an exact match". She is required to say they are similar. (sorry, can't remember the source of that tidbit)
495 posted on 08/14/2002 3:16:37 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: demsux
Did she say she wasn't going to? What did I miss Dems? You can freepmail me if you need to.
496 posted on 08/14/2002 3:17:54 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
If DW admitted guilt to Feldman wouldn't the attorney be plea bargaining instead of going to trial? Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. But if Feldman knew for sure via confession from DW, do you really think he would try to put him back on the street to do it again?
497 posted on 08/14/2002 3:18:09 PM PDT by KnutCase
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To: basscleff
Wow again.
498 posted on 08/14/2002 3:18:40 PM PDT by fatima
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Yes, I heard the closings. But I got more out of them
by reading them.

Well, in a good number of trials I've seen, a defense attorney doesn't always say his client is guilty or
innocent. What does come through loud & clear in
Feldman's closings is he's actually saying DW is not
guilty all the way through.

Normally, when an attorney gets a client, they say,
"If you're guilty, I don't want you to tell me."
499 posted on 08/14/2002 3:18:41 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: JudyB1938
OH and just wondering,

Looking for a solution to the problem means I am castigating others?

Interesting argument.

500 posted on 08/14/2002 3:18:41 PM PDT by alisasny
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