Jurors To Hear Recorded Westerfield Tapes: Mudd Still Wrestling With Media! (VERDICT WATCH-Aug.14th)

Union Trib ^ | August 14, 2002 | San Diego Staff

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

A split jury would not be a surprise.

Really, Minnie???????? Ya think???? It wouldn't be a surprise?

Wow...........no one has thought of that yet.

[VRWC_minion]

(Translation: How much cheating do you want me to do on your account?)

Talk about taking my comments out of context. The last thing a CPA should do for his client is to even let him think about cheating. There are plenty of ways to lower taxes and plent of ways to increase them. Cheating is one of the ways to increase them while getting a long rest. In fact I have an ex-cpa friend who will be spending the next 70 months with his clients on an all expense paid vacation. That kind of risk is not only immoral its stupid.

The true evaluation of risks comes into play when one may want to take a posistion on a tax issue that the IRS is not likely to agree with. There are many such issues that the IRS has been wrong on and will continue to be. In that case their are various authorities on which one can take a posistion that is completely legal but may require one to fight in court over in order to pervail.

[VRWC_minion]

Deep down inside you like me don't you.

[Jaded]

Really? That was what Arthur Andersen had been doing. Hmmm.

[the Deejay]

Okay, finally got it right, folks. (Last week someone
on tv gave me a bum steer as to who the foreman is. I
know they said it was the 83 yr. old man. Wrong!)
From CTV site:

The foreman and juror #95 in the pool. A male who has a 7-week-old child and works as a certified public accountant. He believes the death penalty is a deterrent in certain cases and a legitimate means of punishment.

[demsux]

Juror #65 in the pool. This 83-year-old white male retired from a 32-year military career as an Army colonel. He has a 7-year-old granddaughter, and takes medications for back problems, blood pressure, and arthritis. He expressed concerns about the death penalty because he has a mentally handicapped son, and knows some states execute regardless of mental capacity.

If you look back at the bets we made regarding "who will be the foreman?", you will see that I WON...assuming that it is the old military guy.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Deep down inside you like me don't you.

Do you want the truth or do you want to feel good?

[UCANSEE2]

I think there is something important we all should realize.

Those , on both sides of this case, that post regularly to these threads are the EXCEPTION.

Most of the public in the US and most people on F.R. (who do not read or post these threads regularly) BELIEVE DW is GUILTY.

When you read the news, or see something on TV about the TRIAL, or watch CTV, You are not allowed to see anything but the ANTI-DW parts. The questioning by DUSEK of witnesses where they give answers that look bad for DW.

The cross exams where it is shown that that evidence is wrong, math incorrect, etc. ARE NEVER SHOWN to the PUBLIC.

CTV cuts away from anything but PROSECUTION'S SIDE OF THE CASE.

Nasty Grace does it repeatedly. She will have 'guests' and as long as they agree with her, she lets them talk. If they don't she interrupts and goes to another guest.

MOST PEOPLE in the US don't have the TIME, or EQUIPMENT to follow the case like we have.

I can understand Billy-Bob's view, because that is all he has seen is the ONE SIDE.

The MEDIA is only presenting the PROSECUTION SIDE of this case.

That is one reason I try to understand people that are new to the thread. Sometimes we luck out and get some that have used 'common-sense' and see through the smoke and mirrors that the SD LE/DA are using.

This is WAG THE DOG.

FIRST the media, LE,DA went on a campaign of getting the public to accept that DW WAS GUILTY. Now, they follow up with this confused mess they call a trial to try and back it up.

They know if they somehow succeed, NO ONE WILL CALL THEM ON IT, because they have the backing of a majority of the public and the media.

AS long as you have the MEDIA behind you, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU WILL GET AWAY WITH IT!

[demsux]

I think the jury has already decided on the kidnap/murder charge...now they are dealing with the kiddie porn charge.

BTW, I think they'll acquit on the kidnap/murder charge, don't know about the porn.

[small_l_libertarian]

AS long as you have the MEDIA behind you, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU WILL GET AWAY WITH IT!

Truer words were never spoken (typed).

[connectthedots]

The foreman and juror #95 in the pool. A male who has a 7-week-old child and works as a certified public accountant. He believes the death penalty is a deterrent in certain cases and a legitimate means of punishment.

This is likely good for DW. CPAs generally look at the facts and the numbers and not as likely to be swayed by emotion.

[Guenevere]

#259...Exactly right!!!

[small_l_libertarian]

You don't think they would have tried to settle the porn charge first, since that's the supposed motive for the kidnap/killing?

[dread78645]

Yep, he lost my vote a long time ago. He acts like one. He likes making all his posts in bold and spams URLs in every post. Typical self-important politician. BARF!

I usually agree w/ him on other threads.

Today, however, he came out with his "opinion" --totally at odds with the evidence, he didn't have the slightest acquaintance with the facts.

He took some heat for his clueless posts. Well deserved IMO.

[Rheo]

AS long as you have the MEDIA behind you, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. YOU WILL GET AWAY WITH IT!

Yep...worked for the Clintons too.

[demsux]

I think they would address the "capital" charges first...then move on to the kiddie porn

[connectthedots]

I agree. If they are asking about the evidence related to porn, they have decided the kidnapping and murder charges. If so, I think he will be found 'not guilty' on those charges. If he was guilty of the kidnapping/murder charges, why really bother spending much, if any, time on the porn charge; unless they just want to be seen a thorough.

[Freedom2specul8]

Thanks so much for going to all of that trouble. I learned late in the game to bookmark posts like yours for future reference...so I don't have to look it up in the actual transcripts at a later time. I wish I would have thought about it months ago. ~sigh~


It looks like Neal DID access it on that day and he had forgotten about it (or was afraid to admit it)

What do you think?

[VRWC_minion]

CPAs generally look at the facts and the numbers and not as likely to be swayed by emotion.

Speaking as a CPA, Westerfield is guilty based on the facts and the numbers.

[the Deejay]

"Yep...worked for the Clintons too."

Ya beat me to it!