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Jurors To Hear Recorded Westerfield Tapes: Mudd Still Wrestling With Media! (VERDICT WATCH-Aug.14th)
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| August 14, 2002
| San Diego Staff
Posted on 08/13/2002 10:12:33 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: dread78645
Of course not. Just a wannbe.
To: connectthedots; Congressman Billybob
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/20020625-9999_1m25hair.html
Hair similar to Danielle van Dam's was found on sheets in David Westerfield's bedroom, and authorities found fibers in his motor home that appear to match fibers from the girl's bedroom carpet, a criminalist testified yesterday.
Also, hairs similar to the van Dams' family dog were found in Westerfield's house, his motor home and on a comforter he dropped off at a dry cleaner, criminalist Tanya DuLaney said.
DuLaney, who works in the San Diego Police Department crime lab, testified on a day when prosecutors used charts and blow-up photos in an attempt to show that traces of the 7-year-old girl were scattered throughout Westerfield's domain
can also be confirmed in transcripts.
To: Jaded; spectre; UCANSEE2; countess; Krodg; BARLF; kayti; Politicalmom; I. Ben Hurt; JudyB1938; ...
Forgive me if this has already been posted...and sorry for being late (computer problems!)
For the Ping List and anyone who wants to join in:
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Lord, grant these twelve jurors great wisdom to understand all the testimony they have heard over the past two months, and the clarity of mind to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Give them strength to endure, and fill them with a sense of honor and integrity, and the desire to do what is right.
May You shine the light of truth into the darkness of their confusion, that the jurors will discern honesty from those who bear false witness against their neighbor.
Although You say, "Vengeance is Mine," may You see fit to allow justice for Danielle here on this earth, that her death may not lead to the death of other innocents.
We pray that truth will prevail, and that the sword of justice will weigh heavily on those who would use it falsely to bring glory to themselves.
May Your will be done, in Jesus name.
Amen.
Pray for strength and guidance for all of the friends and families involved in this ordeal.
123
posted on
08/14/2002 9:36:12 AM PDT
by
shezza
To: alisasny
Nancy Grace doesn't GET to state things for the "record", and yes, she did say that. Of couse, the judge called them cartoons, but what would he know??
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
the other possibility is he was smart enough to wear gloves, hat etc ..before entering the house. And for the 3 hour hide in the closet he'll need one of these.
To: spectre; connectthedots
These "usually sensible" people on this forum who are taking us on.. should be asking themselves WHY so many of the rest of the "usually sensible" people are questioning DW's guilt?Agreed.
I'd like to add that just because an individual has shown himself/herself to be strong in a particular area does not mean every opinion of said individual has merit.
In fact, that is foolish. That is why people get by on a reputation rather than actual quality sometimes.
ANY person who chooses to spout off, with presumptuous authority, about that which he clearly knows little, makes a very poor error in judgment. That tells me a whole lot.
To: FresnoDA; Admin Moderator
Dear AM, Would you explain to us why these threads are being moved to chat? What is the benefit and what category was it under before?
Thanks!
Kim
To: alisasny
You may have noticed I addressed the porn issue last. I don't think the porn evidence proves anything and I think the prosecution included it primarily in order to appeal to the emotions of the jury. I think it borders on being so prejudicial it might be the basis for the reversal of any conviction in the appellate courts.
After this number of days, I think the jury is split into two primary groups. One group which believes that the fiber/hair/DNA evidence is conclusive (even though the prosecutor never seemed to be able to establish when it was deposited) and another group that basically will hold to the believe that the dogs and the bugs don't lie, and that there is no evidence of DW having been in the VD home. If he was never in the VD home, he didn't commit the crimes.
I am leaning towards a hung jury, which would give the prosecution an opportunity to retry DW at a later date if they can develope the evidence further. The DA will look at the evidence and decide not to retry him immediately, which will force the court to release DW without bail. Maybe then the prosecutor will start looking at other suspects; especially Damon or someone Damon may have 'loaned' Danielle to. I am not convinced Danielle was in the house when she was abducted.
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Ditto
129
posted on
08/14/2002 9:43:41 AM PDT
by
Lucky
To: Politicalmom
I just heard Nancy's guest say that DW preferred slender women w/small breasts. NOT TRUE!! That is NOT what he said. His preference in women is slender &
large breastedI had to turn the tv OFF!
To: All
Please confirm the info in 122 with the transcripts as it is not accurate...case in point:
Also, hairs similar to the van Dams' family dog were found in Westerfield's house, his motor home and on a comforter he dropped off at a dry cleaner, criminalist Tanya DuLaney said.
The "layla" hairs that were sent to Veterinary Genetics came back non reportable....were not matched to ANY dog, let alone Layla.
Hairs and fibers that Ms. Dulaney opines are Danielle's..turn out not to be when tested.
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posted on
08/14/2002 9:44:58 AM PDT
by
Rheo
To: Congressman Billybob
Many people have responded to you on this thread with the actual facts of this case. I wholeheartedly agree with them so I won't repeat what they said.
I would like to add though, the judge would NOT let the defense "rake the detectives over the coals." He tied their hands and wouldn't allow them to even hint that the LE or VD's and Company were involved in any way. You really need to read the transcripts. I think you might be surprised.
On one issue I might tend to agree, because the jury didn't hear all the facts in the case, they very well may come back with a guilty verdict.
To: Congressman Billybob
#93....I saw it.
If I didn't know for sure (& actually I don't)....you sound so like Nancy Grace.
Nancy, is it you?
To: Rheo
Kim quoting inaccurate media information???
Say it ain't so!!!
To: All
Folks, I do believe Congressman Billybob is our "chain
yanker" for today. What'dya think?
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Dear AM, Would you explain to us why these threads are being moved to chat? What is the benefit and what category was it under before? Better yet where is chat if I wanted to search and find this thread??
136
posted on
08/14/2002 9:55:17 AM PDT
by
Duan
To: Duan
general interest
To: the Deejay
Firecracker
138
posted on
08/14/2002 9:56:14 AM PDT
by
demsux
To: MizSterious
Wel, I guess I lost. :)
139
posted on
08/14/2002 9:56:19 AM PDT
by
It's me
To: Rheo; Congressman Billybob
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/transcripts/20020624-9999-am2.html
21 Q. DID YOU FIND ANY HAIRS IN THAT LINT?22 A. YES, I DID.23 Q. DESCRIBE THEM PLEASE.24 A. I FOUND THREE HUMAN HAIRS THAT ARE BLOND AND I ALSO25 FOUND 18 DOG HAIRS.
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28 Q. DID THE 18 ANIMAL HAIRS APPEAR TO BE SIMILAR TO ONE59691 ANOTHER?2 A. YES, THEY DID.
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10 FROM THE HALLWAY OF THE MOTOR HOME OF MR. WESTERFIELD.11 Q. DID YOU EXAMINE THAT CARPET SECTION LABELED NO. 74?12 A. YES, I DID.13 Q. DID YOU FIND ANYTHING IN IT?14 A. YES, I DID.15 Q. WHAT?16 A. I FOUND ONE BLOND HUMAN HAIR, TWO DOG HAIRS AND17 THREE LIGHT COLORED CARPET FIBERS.
(Blonde hairs, dog hairs, fibers etc. found in various locations)
FBI
5 Q. DID YOU PACKAGE THAT ITEM AND PREPARE IT FOR6 SHIPMENT TO THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION?7 A. YES, I DID.8 Q. WHY?9 A. THE COMPARISON OF HAIRS IS NOT AN INDIVIDUALIZING10 TECHNIQUE, BUT THE ADDITION OF D. N. A. ANALYSIS CAN POINT MORE11 CLOSELY TO AN INDIVIDUAL. SO THE MICROSCOPIC COMPARISON OF12 HAIRS IS TYPICALLY AUGMENTED WITH A D. N. A. ANALYSIS NOW.13 Q. IS THAT WHY THAT PARTICULAR HAIR WAS PACKAGED AND14 TO BE SENT TO THE F. B. I.?15 A. YES, IT WAS.
12 A. THAT MEANS THAT TWO OR MORE PEOPLE CAN HAVE HAIR13 THAT YOU CAN'T DISTINGUISH BASED ON THE MICROSCOPIC EXAMINATION14 OF THE HAIR.15 Q. HOW DOES D. N. A. PLAY A ROLE IN THAT?16 A. D. N. A. CAN PLAY A ROLE IN THAT IF IT CAN BE17 ANALYZED EITHER WITH NUCLEAR D. N. A. IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE
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so my question would be: Who did the dna testing
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