No Decision From Westerfield Jury: Deliberations Continue Tuesday, August 13, 2002

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[Rheo]

Naw....why would a business need to bother with their business name on receipts..use post it notes or apparently blank paper.....maybe they were saving up to buy receipts with the business name on them but needed to replace the defective printers first.

It's no dang wonder the 12 year employee didn't know the address of the business..wasn't printed on anything. :-)

[UCANSEE2]

If Danielle ran away, did so do so in her pajamas?

I Believe it was in her 'new sparkly' outfit her mother just bought.

I thought it was stated no other clothing of hers was missing.

The only ones that would have made that statement were the (liars)Van Dams. We do know that there were 'sparkles' on the carpet, but I did not see any mention of the NEW OUTFIT.

Did police ask about the new outfit? I haven't seen that so far, either.

Perhaps others can settle that issue.

[Rheo]

Maybe the spy question came up because they had doubts about ANDY.

Good one!

Do you recall offhand how long Denise had been living next door to Babs?

[the Deejay]

"It's no dang wonder the 12 year employee didn't know the address of the business..wasn't printed on anything."

Not even on her paychecks for the past 12 years? She never took notice in all that time? I'll bet she always noticed the amount paid. Weren't there address numbers on the front of the shop itself? She is just an idiot, to not know the address of her 12 yr. employer.

[Rheo]

Has never been mentioned outside the sparklies on the floor.

[juzcuz]

He could innocently return to the scene of the crime with Denise without arousing any suspicion. You're right, his prints and DNA would already be in the house, because he's been partying with them for years.

Also, the best revenge is a subtle one. If you really want to get to someone the last thing you want to do is put that person on guard against you. If he was smart, he be as amiable as possible.

[the Deejay]

LE didn't consider the new sparkles outfit relevant.
Therefore, it was/is moot.

[itsahoot]

When you have a glitch and put in backup register, or reinstall
the POS software, you may not have the time to re-establich the
by-store configuration info.

Wonder why the state did not use their "Computer Experts" to nail
this issue down? Maybe they were afraid it would be exculpatory.

Naw that couldn't be the reason, they were probably just looking
out for the tax payers money...good servants.

[UCANSEE2]

It's beyond me why the police didn't take a closer & longer look at the vdams.

Let me put it within your reach, then.

The Van Dams had A CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND, retired (SDPD) policewoman Diane Halfman (Gonzalez) by their side from the first moments Danielle disappeared.

This woman was also a CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND of the SDPD INVESTIGATORS on the case.

The Van Dam's also had the benefit of A RENOWNED PUBLIC RELATIONS Team they hired from the first moments of Danielle's disappearance.

Later, they fired this PR team and hired another one, one that is the largest in the United States, one that had Susan Winterstein as their agent. Susan also seems to be a CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND.

It would also seem that DORIE SAVAGE may be a CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND of the VAN DAM'S.

That is only the ties we know about.

Does that help?

[Lanza]

I forgot. Who is Dorie Savage?

[UCANSEE2]

LE didn't consider the new sparkles outfit relevant.

Just like the whole case. The REAL evidence is either IGNORED or DESTROYED.

Police: "Gee, her PJ's are lying here on the floor. There are SPARKLIES on the floor, but the NEW OUTFIT she just bought is missing. Therefore I conclude she was wearing her PJ's when she was kidnapped from this bedroom."

[demsux]

I'd really like to know if Andy Kemal is still in the good ole USA.

Doesn't even have a phone number anymore.

[Rheo]

The forensic tech that did the VD home...didn't know about the blood on the stairs in PH...at trial..she had collected those samples...found the shell casing on Danielle's floor the next day after the VD's put up the dog gate.

[the Deejay]

Yep, that helps. And I can still hear that train whistle & the train rolling down the tracks that keep saying;

"David A. Westerfield is being railroaded."

[spectre]

Well, If DW didn't "do it", then we have to consider someone at the house did. (The percentage for that happening favors UCS's suspicions).

We can imagine probably about a half dozen really good ways the girl disappeared from the home. UCANSEE...I am not saying that she wasn't there that night, because I don't KNOW anything that can help you out with that. The boys could have lied, or maybe not even have been questioned? The cops know, tho.

I am hung-up on the "no finger prints of hers in her own bedroom". Didn't she put on her PJ's? Didn't she go into her dresser, closet, toychest..touch the headboard? Her shoes? Someplace they could have lifted a print from?

They wanted to pin this on DW...so what if they CLAIMED they didn't have any of her prints..but in reality LE lifted a print and transferred it to DW's MH above the bed?

I'm sorry, guys, I'm NOT the Tin Foil Hat type...it's just this case needs a second look.

sw

[UCANSEE2]

I forgot. Who is Dorie Savage?

SDPD Investigator. I believe specializes in FORENSICS. Found/interpreted(placed) evidence that was used against DW.

[crypt2k]

LE didn't consider the new sparkles outfit relevant. Therefore, it was/is moot.

So Danielle presumabley was wearing pajamas that shed these "sparklies" during her abduction?

[Lanza]

Thanks Rheo.

[the Deejay]

Wow! I didn't realize the sparkles outfit is missing!!
I assumed it is still in her closet.

[the-gooroo]

I have to agree with you dj. When you go back and read those transcripts from PH and trial it is sooo obvious that the VD's thought they had this whole thing down pat. Except they were backed right into a corner because if you believe their story, DW would had to have been hiding in Danielles BR for a couple of hours. No way!