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No Decision From Westerfield Jury: Deliberations Continue Tuesday, August 13, 2002
KGTV ^ | August 13, 2002 | KGTV

Posted on 08/12/2002 10:16:25 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: pinz-n-needlez
"The longer I sit here and think about it...we are right. " You're right Knut! And we're all good looking and modest too! LOL

Well, if this doesn't bear repeating!!:-)

441 posted on 08/13/2002 1:52:55 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Rheo
Consarnit Rheo... you beat me to it!
442 posted on 08/13/2002 1:53:10 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: Rheo
Consarnit Rheo... you beat me to it!
443 posted on 08/13/2002 1:53:11 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: KnutCase
There are only a couple of reasons I can think of that they would want to hear the tape, as opposed to reading the transcript.

1. They want to assess, like you said, his demeanor. His manner, tone of voice, etc.

2. They don't trust the transcript(?). (Don't necessarily believe that one myself, but it's a logical reason.)

That's about all I can think of. Any other ideas as to why they might want the tape?
444 posted on 08/13/2002 1:54:41 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Does that mean I beat you twice??
445 posted on 08/13/2002 1:55:25 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: UCANSEE2
I wonder, was the DNA from her body ever compared to the DNA from the underwear

Yes. And it matched.

446 posted on 08/13/2002 1:55:49 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: Steve0113
was it urine stains or vaginal excretion?

The latter. It's a tell-tale sign of sexual abuse. It was used as a DNA source, which urine would not provide.

Sorry, Steve, this was not the case. URINE in itself may not contain DNA, but the crotch of the underwear would contain skin flakes, sweat, urine, all kinds of material which would provide a source for DNA.

The LE that took the sample said it was a stain.

It was not identified as VAGINAL DISCHARGE except in the terminology that urine is discharged from the vaginal area in general.

If you go back and read the testimony, you will find that the same was taken because the LE could tell the panties had recently been worn. NOT BECAUSE of ANY PARTICULAR STAIN.

NOW, having said that, is it possible that the stain could have been a vaginal discharge? That Danielle could have been a victim of sexual abuse? YES,YES.

BUT IT WAS NOT STATED IN TESTIMONY, and we are trying to stick to the TRUTH.

447 posted on 08/13/2002 1:55:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: small_l_libertarian
To hear the route and the "we"

On a side note...while traveling to ND last month...by myself for the first time in 15 years...I found myself saying "We" a few times...hmmm.

448 posted on 08/13/2002 1:56:50 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: the Deejay
You may have misinterpreted my post #425. That would be my way of saying to the police, "I'm not talking. Get outta here...NOW!"
449 posted on 08/13/2002 1:57:03 PM PDT by KnutCase
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To: Steve0113
which urine would not provide.

Wrong about this too. We found information stating that DNA can be garnered from URINE.

450 posted on 08/13/2002 1:57:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: alisasny
. This child was not first abused the night in question. Thanks to those who responded about the panty dna. Someday the truth will come out. 344 posted on 8/13/02 12:00 PM Pacific by alisasny

I agree about the 'truth'. However, the panty DNA did not prove what you are saying. See my post above.

I am not saying she wasn't abused, but the TRUTH is that the dirty area in the panties was not ID'd as vaginal secretion, especially a kind resulting from abuse.

451 posted on 08/13/2002 2:00:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: small_l_libertarian
Can someone tell me how David Westerfield became the suspect in the very beginning? What made them suspect him? Is it possible at this point that the VD's can be tried as suspects once David is hopefully acquitted?
452 posted on 08/13/2002 2:01:08 PM PDT by angelgirl
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To: Rheo
Maybe we're talking at cross-purposes here. I was going on the assumption that they already know about the route and the "we." What, exactly do you mean? For example, do they want to see if the "we" sounds suspicious to them, or like an innocent slip of the tongue?

[You know what? Now that I typed that out, it sounds very reasonable to me, too. Is that what you meant?]
453 posted on 08/13/2002 2:01:20 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: KnutCase
And you would be right, as well as within your rights,
not talking to the police. I am constantly amazed at
just how many people go ahead and talk to LE without
an attorney. And not telling LE "Get outta here.....
NOW!"
454 posted on 08/13/2002 2:02:04 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: MizSterious
Found guilty on any Friday.
455 posted on 08/13/2002 2:04:14 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Rheo
Not sue if it's a maiden name or not...looked through deeds on San Diego County website...there was one trust deed where her name changes from/to gonzalez.
456 posted on 08/13/2002 2:04:31 PM PDT by demsux
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To: angelgirl
Sometime with in the first 14 hours Brenda VanDam said something to LE. This was misrepresented/embellished in the affidavits in order to obtain search warrants.

And in the last set of affidavits that were released SDPD requested the affidavits be sealed NOT Feldman. As we have seen representations made by David Westerfield have largely proven to be true. Representations/leaks made by LE largely HAVE NOT.
457 posted on 08/13/2002 2:04:37 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: small_l_libertarian
That is what I meant.....they may want to hear the context in which the "we"s" were used or if he tried to cover it up or if it is an innocent slip.(I can attest that it happens)

I hope they also ask for Brenda's testimony where she states..I wish THEY had taken something else besides Danielle.

458 posted on 08/13/2002 2:05:13 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: KnutCase
If I knew I was totally innocent of a crime and the police requested an "interview

Call an attorney before even nodding your head. Anything more is dangerous.

459 posted on 08/13/2002 2:06:33 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: angelgirl
Can someone tell me how David Westerfield became the suspect in the very beginning?

I believe it was because he was spotted hosing down his RV the very next day. Police suspected he could be trying to destroy evidence that way. Somebody correct me if I am wrong.

460 posted on 08/13/2002 2:06:43 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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