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Defense Feldman: Danielle Van Dam Knew Her Abductor: Dusek, Still Talking...Westerfield Waiting
Union Trib ^ | August 8, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

Posted on 08/07/2002 7:08:12 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: poet
On the infamous Stealth Ninja Dave site, I put up a poll on a page called Jury Room. We can either wait for Dozeoff to finish or not.

Stealth Ninja Dave

**FREE NINJA DAVE**FREE NINJA DAVE**FREE NINJA DAVE**

Also, don't forget the Jury Prayer. Ping in 18 minutes.

201 posted on 08/08/2002 8:42:58 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: All
BITS/PIECES

(How to identify newbies and disruptors)

and OJ was innocent?
57 posted on 8/7/02 8:24 PM Pacific by contessa machiaveli

THE FOLLOWING IS WHAT I HAVE QUESTIONED and finally GOT AN ANSWER TO. ALL OF the POSTERS that keep CLINGING to the DNA in the MH should read this. (Although you will find some way to ignore it. That is your pattern)

how would you explain daniell's bllod on his jacket?

According to the DNA sites linked to above, a perfect match of 25 DNA markers provides only a high possibility of common ancestry.
This prosecution is trying to say that a match of 12 of 13 markers provides an identical match.

The DNA evidence is a sham.

55 posted on 8/7/02 8:24 PM Pacific by meadsjn

202 posted on 08/08/2002 8:44:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: YaYa123
Yaya, ( one of my favorite freepers), Didn't you know that unless you have been posting in these threads since the beginning back in February you know diddly?

(Huge huge sarcasm) These threads and those that post on them daily back since February are the only people in the know....

203 posted on 08/08/2002 8:44:49 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: spectre
I have been following VD/DW threads on FR ever since this hit the news in early Feb., and the original threads from about March 1 show FReepers thinking and supposing with the general public that DW was guilty. I was one of the few at the early date when body was found, to say it could not have been DW that put it there.

I would say we have had a steady progression on FR from about 80% anti-DW on March 1 to about 70% pro-DW on August 1. Surely the sheer weakness of the prosecution case, their failure to prove or even evidence ANYTHING, must be the reason.

Let me again sum up the relevant facts:

1. No evidence DW had any tendency or motive to do anything at all to Danielle or had ever even noticed her.

2. No evidence that anyone entered the VD home, not only did DW not enter it, no one else entered it without permission EITHER!

3. Lots of evidence that things were pretty abnormal at VD household on Fri pm already, weird...was she already gone or harmed or dead?

4. If as I assume, Danielle was out playing in the street or at the local mini-park, there is no reason to think DW is the one who took her, indeed he was probably already gone in the MH before she ever came out to play.

5. VD children and Brenda had been in MH. We still have no adequate disclosure of just how far DW/Brenda relationship had gone, at least once.

6. Whoever killed Danielle hated the girl, brutalized her, knocked out her teeth, not so easy to do...Not DW.

7. Attention to body rather than immediate dumping, possible keeping of her alive for a week or 10 days, ...indicates against a stranger perp and argues for an inside job. DW would be a stranger perp if the prosecution is correct.

8. DW could not have put this body on Dehesa Rd; an accomplice would be needed. If we start with the body placement and work BACK, we will be better able to see what happened.

204 posted on 08/08/2002 8:45:21 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: FresnoDA
Does that picture of Dusek look like he's preparing to lynch DW with or without the jury's say-so to anyone else?
205 posted on 08/08/2002 8:46:38 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
That picture of Dusek makes him look blood thirsty and vindictive. He wants to win by any means necessary.
206 posted on 08/08/2002 8:48:32 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: MizSterious; All
~FLASH~

Damon Van Dam approached Feldmans parents after the trial yesterday in the hallway, and said "I HOPE you are proud of your son!"

Nancy Grace and Beth Karass are laughing about it, saying that's just way too bad...what's the big deal..boohooo!

It IS a very big deal. Damon is one determined, sick puppy to get this guy convicted. How dare he chastise Feldman's parents?

MUDD should have kept him OUT of the courtroom...

sw

207 posted on 08/08/2002 8:51:15 AM PDT by spectre
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To: UCANSEE2
Yes, her PJs were left behind in her room, on the floor hastily shed, inside out, I have no doubt she had got up and gone out to play, and we were never told what she DID have on! Tiny amt of blood on cuff? Kids bleed all the time, this proves nothing, how old was it?

This means that if a perp entered her room, he either found her nude and already out of her PJs, OR STRIPPED HER NUDE RIGHT THERE without ever a peep being heard, and either dressed her in something else, WITHOUT A PEEP BEING HEARD, or ran the risk of having a live child along with no clothes on at all, not likely!

Prosecution case is full of holes.

Many immediate close neighbors, yet we are told a perp took the nude child out of her home and walked a hundred yards or so! Not DW, not anyone, no one entered this home, she left of her own freewill to play -- at whatever hour that may have been.

208 posted on 08/08/2002 8:53:59 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: spectre
PDvD probably needs a coke!
209 posted on 08/08/2002 8:54:06 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: crystalk
Well put, crystalk.

From the reports outside the courtroom, by Beth "cottonmouthed" Karass this morning, it appears the Prosecution may actualy be worried? Just her attitude makes me think that.

sw

210 posted on 08/08/2002 8:54:08 AM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
MUDD should have kept him OUT of the courtroom...

Maybe he will today, but too late. Actually it might be best to have Demon there. I doubt the jury takes too kindly to him.

211 posted on 08/08/2002 8:54:23 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Jaded; spectre; UCANSEE2; countess; Krodg; BARLF; kayti; Politicalmom; I. Ben Hurt; JudyB1938; ...
Ping! Summons for "jury duty" in five minutes.
212 posted on 08/08/2002 8:54:51 AM PDT by shezza
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To: spectre; All; shezza
Closing arguments set to begin in 4 minutes..sw
213 posted on 08/08/2002 8:56:00 AM PDT by spectre
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To: shezza
You Bet!
214 posted on 08/08/2002 8:56:39 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: spectre
I just saw that spectre. The way Beth and Nancy Graceless were snickering about it made me want to barf. Yes Damon has suffered a loss. But does that give him a license to act like a spoiled brat with no manners?
215 posted on 08/08/2002 8:57:15 AM PDT by Mrs.O'Strategery
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To: spectre
it appears the Prosecution may actualy be worried? Just her attitude makes me think that.

I believe the same, spec. The ranting of Jeff Dusek yesterday appeared to be the behavior of a man desperate for confidence that isn't there.

His silly Blackjack and used car analogies were a feeble attempt to connect with someone(s) he senses are not with him.

216 posted on 08/08/2002 8:57:23 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: alisasny; YaYa123
These threads and those that post on them daily back since February are the only people in the know....

Well.... How kind of you. Seems like you believe that any person that has spent countless hours researching and discussing the case since the start knows nothing.

You believe only those that see 1 segment of Court Tv or a 2 minute snip on the local news know the truth of the case.

Why don't you demonstrate some of your knowledge of the facts/testimony/evidence that has been presented in the case?

I know, you watched Nancy Grace's commentary on the closing statements and now you know it all. Right?

There are many posters on these threads. A lot of knowledge has been gained by all.

The lurkers have learned a lot also.

There are posters on 'both sides' of the case. The experienced ones that have spent time to actually learn the facts continue to debate the case intelligently with those in opposition to their views.

You are free to do the same. Or do you just want to make smartaleck remarks to make yourself feel good ?

I will say what I say to others that start off like you have. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. If you qoute your opinion as a fact, be prepared for the onslaught. BS won't pass.

217 posted on 08/08/2002 8:58:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jaded; spectre; UCANSEE2; countess; Krodg; BARLF; kayti; Politicalmom; I. Ben Hurt; JudyB1938; ...
For the Ping List and anyone who wants to join in:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Lord, grant these twelve jurors great wisdom to understand all the testimony they have heard over the past two months, and the clarity of mind to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Give them strength to endure, and fill them with a sense of honor and integrity, and the desire to do what is right.

May You shine the light of truth into the darkness of their confusion, that the jurors will discern honesty from those who bear false witness against their neighbor.

Although You say, "Vengeance is Mine," may You see fit to allow justice for Danielle here on this earth, that her death may not lead to the death of other innocents.

We pray that truth will prevail, and that the sword of justice will weigh heavily on those who would use it falsely to bring glory to themselves.

May Your will be done, in Jesus name.

Amen.

218 posted on 08/08/2002 8:59:44 AM PDT by shezza
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To: shezza
Amen
219 posted on 08/08/2002 9:00:32 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: crystalk
Tiny amt of blood on cuff? Kids bleed all the time, this proves nothing, how old was it?

Not trying to relate the blood on the cuff to her disappearance. I think it is relevant that FELDMAN kept trying to refer to a CUT on Danielle's ANKLE (from the dog, I think) and DUSEK (and the JUDGE) objected every time.

WHY?

220 posted on 08/08/2002 9:00:44 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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