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Westerfield Closings Set For Tuesday, 8-6-2002: More Revelations Continue "Out" Of Jurors Sight!
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| August 6, 2002
| Harriet Ryan
Posted on 08/06/2002 6:40:14 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Steve0113
From an earlier post..it's in the transcripts too.
"Susan L, the x-girlfriend said that she didn't drink much, that dw drank too much, she left him cuz of his drinking problems and that when he did drink, his character/mood changed to being upset, sad/depressed, withdrawn and he becamse very quiet. Dusek also got her to admit that he becamse forceful while drunk once. Forceful was vague, wasn't defined..so the jury is left to speculate what the forceful was all about unless it's explained later. "
To: FresnoDA
good one, Fres!
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posted on
08/06/2002 11:35:13 AM PDT
by
It's me
To: spectre
There you go again; confusing the issues with facts. :-)
To: spectre
Talking about "hired guns" and how Neal HAD to testify against his Dad "that stinks!", says Dusek.Let's see, who was it that put Neal on the stand? Hmmm?
To: FresnoDA
You better follow orders than Fres :)
To: FresnoDA
than = then
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
not a post, kim, the transcrips, please
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posted on
08/06/2002 11:35:46 AM PDT
by
It's me
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I can't agree. I've missed some during the CTV breaks. I thought he started strong with his emotional appeal, but really lost the jury with his repeating the jury instructions, stumbled through the bug guys and then he couldn't decide whether to quit or not. He's back to porno now which has no evidentuary value.
He could have done much better, but he just doesn't have the evidence for how, when and where that a good case would have. I give him a B-. I also find his halting speaking style very irritating.
To: Steve0113
Susan testified he "shoved her"..Now, she is a nice person, but very fragile. So it all depends of what the definition of "shove" is :~)
sw
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posted on
08/06/2002 11:36:09 AM PDT
by
spectre
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I can't believe they spell like that in the transcripts.
**FREE NINJA DAVE**FREE NINJA DAVE**FREE NINJA DAVE**
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posted on
08/06/2002 11:36:26 AM PDT
by
Jaded
To: Jaded
I wonder who was surfing porn in DW's house, while DW was at the police station?
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posted on
08/06/2002 11:37:40 AM PDT
by
demsux
To: Jaded; All
Dusek says there's no evidence that the VDs killed Danielle. He's right!! Damon steamcleaned/painted it away.
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posted on
08/06/2002 11:39:21 AM PDT
by
nycgal
To: spectre
Hell no, Neal shouldn't have had to testify. Dusak's the one that forced him to testify. There has been a valid suggestion of the porn videos being captured in a backup and then are going to be in same folder as was on the computer.
To: demsux
One of Stealth Ninja Dave's many talents.
Hey, you got any Dramamine?
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posted on
08/06/2002 11:39:26 AM PDT
by
Jaded
To: spectre
Susan testified he "shoved her"..Now, she is a nice person, but very fragile. So it all depends of what the definition of "shove" is :~)Yep. I got the distinct impression that he didn't hurt her, and that she wasn't afraid of him.
To: John Jamieson
I agree that Dusek started out really strong regarding the physical evidence. After about the first 15 minutes, he should have simply closed up his argument and sat down. If you have 15 minutes of material don't to squeeze it into 2 hours. After the first 15 minutes, the only Dusek has done was to draw attention away from the first 15 minutes of his closing. Not very smart if you ask me.
To: nycgal
Wow, he's worried!
To: connectthedots
He wants to bore the jury into a guilty verdict.
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posted on
08/06/2002 11:42:36 AM PDT
by
Jaded
To: demsux
RICK ROBERTS SOURCE, HIGH-PLACED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL TOLD RICKThe comments of Rick Roberts source (a high placed law enforcement official) are in bold type. Additional information from other sources (press, etc.) are in italics.
- Rick Roberts high-placed law enforcement official said that the van Dams were involved in "swinging, lots of wife swapping."
- Rick Roberts high-placed law enforcement official said that before Danielles disappearance, the van Dams neighbor, David Westerfield "found out about the familys (van Dams) swinging lifestyle and approached them to host an adult party at his house." "Westerfield told Brenda, I like to hold Adult Parties....you bring the salad, I provide the meat!"
David Westerfield has been quoted in the press as saying that he was a friend of the van Dams.
The van Dams have denied this, stating that their only contact with him was when Brenda and Danielle came to his home to sell girl scout cookies, and when they exchanged greeting as they passed by.
- Rick Roberts high-placed law enforcement official said that on the night of Danielles disappearance, "Brenda van Dam was at a local Poway bar where she was grinding away "confirmed" on the dance floor and possibly did a guy in the parking lot." "Could have been more than 2, since Brenda, Barb, Denise, Keith and Rich "spent some time in the parking lot" partying....
The bar has been identified in the press as "Dads Café and Steak House."
David Westerfield openly admitted that he was at the bar that night. He claims that he danced with Brenda van Dam. Brenda denies this.
- Rick Roberts high-placed law enforcement official said, "Brenda left the bar with 2 girlfriends and 2 guys and went back to the van Dams house." "From Brenda's own lips, she left with Barb, Denise, Rich(the dealer) and Keith"
- Rick Roberts high-placed law enforcement official said, "One timeline given in police records shows Brenda coming home from the bar to find the light [on the alarm] flashing and a door open. [She closed the door]." "Brenda admitted in her testimony at the Pre-Lim, when I walked into the house, through the front door, I saw the alarm light flashing!"
- Rick Roberts high-placed law enforcement official said that Brenda "gave one of the girlfriends to her husband Damon as a present, and made sure to shut the doors on all the bedrooms so the kids wouldnt be awakened by loud lovemaking. She did not look to see if the kids were in their rooms." "Brenda AND Barb both went upstairs...as Brenda stated in her testimony, but Barb stayed upstairs, and Brenda went back downstairs...Brenda came up later by her accounts, because the others, Rich and Keith were teasing about how long Barb had been upstairs!"
- Rick Roberts high-placed law enforcement official said, "the adults locked themselves in the van Dams garage they have special inside locks so the kids cant come in and started smoking marijuana and fooling around. The adults in the garage were Brenda, Damon, 2 girlfriends, and 2 guys from the bar." "Brenda forgot to mention this part on the stand, but as presented, this means that Damon, Brenda, Barb, Denise, Keith and Rich went into the Van Dam LOVE SHACK in the garage....
- Rick Roberts high-placed law enforcement official said, "after everyone had sex, Damon noticed the [alarm] light blinking and a door open. They were busy with their adult party, so they never checked on the kids." "Now, if after everyone, Brenda, Damon, Barb, Denise, Rich and Keith had "swung", and if then Damon noticed the light....then that would mean a light had been tripped, after Brenda arrived, (where she noticed the first light) and now there had been another entry/exit to the home.
To: nycgal
Yeppers.
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posted on
08/06/2002 11:42:53 AM PDT
by
Jaded
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