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Defendant (Westerfield) Now Lives A Spartan Existence: Nothing Left But To Fight For His Life!!
Union Tribune ^ | August 5, 2002 | Kristen Green

Posted on 08/05/2002 8:59:13 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: MizSterious
PING...if you are lurking...SWANG GLOSSARY IS UP AGAIN..LOL
41 posted on 08/05/2002 10:29:14 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
...it’s not about falling in love (except with your own partner) it’s about enhancing an existing strong and stable relationship.

That always cracks me up.

42 posted on 08/05/2002 10:29:23 AM PDT by shezza
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To: Jacy29
No, no, a thousand times no! There was DNA in Danielle's bedroom that remains unidentified, along with the unidentified fingerprints on the sliding glass door, the front door, the bannister leading up the stairway, on Danielle's doorframe, and on her desk beside her bed. But there was no evidence of David Alan Westerfield ANYWHERE in the Van Dam Damn House. Not one bit. Not a hair. Not a drop of sweat. Not a scent trail for Frazee's Amazing Duo to "hit" upon. Not an iota of DNA.

I reckon that's just more disinformation put out by the Nancy Grace clones (or is it clowns?) in an attempt to influence the court of public opinion.

43 posted on 08/05/2002 10:32:58 AM PDT by shezza
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To: Jacy29
It was Danielle's DNA in her underwear that gave them the DNA to match the DNA found in the RV. Not David's DNA. That little play on words was done that way intentionally.
44 posted on 08/05/2002 10:33:19 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: alexandria
I was listening to it on CTV (choke)..

I think the motions are over, and Judge Mudd says NO to sequestering the Jury, but that if anything ELSE should happen before they go to deliberations, then he would reconsider.

I take it there are no more witnesses...UNLESS by some miracle they can deliver the summons to Barbra who might be hiding out in Mexico to avoid being served.. (I don't KNOW this for a fact, just kiddin...maybe..:~)

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45 posted on 08/05/2002 10:39:15 AM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
Mornin all:

Gosh, It's so easy to jump to conclusions when that's all you have are fragments and pieces. Just yesterday I realized I was wrong in my perceptions of the dump site. All this time I was under the impression that Danielle was somehow on the same side (Dehesa Rd.) as the Singing Hills golf course. Actually, she was dumped (on Dehesa Rd.) across the road from those interconnected ponds, which belong to Sloan Canyon Sand and Gravel Pits, (wholesale sand and gravel) Located: 3605 Dehesa Rd. El Cajon, CA. 92019.
http://www.mapquest.com see: Aerial Photo pan right and zoom to (see pocket) across the (curving road) from connected pits

According to Thomsovic: Her body was just E. of Singing Hills golf course. Accross the road from Sloan Canyon Sand and Gravel Pits Co. and approx. 1/2 Mile West of Sloan Canyon Road. Her body was in a POCKET VALLEY. To the N. high ridge of mtns. To the S. and across are interconnected ponds that belong to Sloan Canyon and Gravel.
46 posted on 08/05/2002 10:40:06 AM PDT by juzcuz
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To: Jaded
ugh..that's all I can really say about that. Another question...did all of the witness' have the option of not having their faces broadcast or only Neal?
47 posted on 08/05/2002 10:43:02 AM PDT by Jacy29
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To: FresnoDA
Enough with the swinging, already! It may be nasty and dirty and sinful. But it is not a CRIME in California.
Now if you're talking Iraq, then you're on to something.

But this has nada--nothing--zip--zero--to do with David Wesyerfields's innocence or guilt in the murder of Danielle Van Dam.

I can't believe you really have a law degree.
49 posted on 08/05/2002 10:50:02 AM PDT by Palladin
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To: HoneyBoo; John Jamieson; FresnoDA; Jaded; ~Kim4VRWC's~
Good find ! HoneyBoo

' ... Pfingst spoke with her for half an hour and had her interviewed by investigators. But she says a report generated from that interview—which she showed to San Diego Magazine—leaves out key parts of her story Further, Rooney says Pfingst told her the report would be turned over to Peyer’s defense attorney, Bob Grimes, and that she didn’t need to discuss “more than what’s on that piece of paper.”'

' ... In the report, Lafko writes that she and Beck’s attorney, William Bibb, “discussed the fact that Pfingst and Beck knew, at least during the [Peyer] trial if not before, that the clothing had been contaminated before it was sent to the FBI for analysis and that that fact had not been shared with the defense.”

The “clothing” in the reference was case evidence: Knott’s sweater and Peyer’s police uniform. ...'

Ms. Shenn, please report back to the stand for more questioning!

Indeed!

50 posted on 08/05/2002 10:51:38 AM PDT by dread78645
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To: juzcuz
Good info..jc.

But according to Beth Karass, just now, we don't need to know anything except that Danielle's pressed out fingerprint, or hand print, as she is saying, is ALL we need to point to the fact that Westerfield kidnapped her, she was alive, and that he killed her.

With that, dear friends, I have to leave CTV now, and pray to the LORD that the Jurors aren't listening to that propoganda.

To JUDGE MUDD..."YOU are wrong, sir! Where else but Court TV or Rick Roberts can the Jury turn too? These shows have to get him convicted, it's their reputation, it's their purpose..get him convicted. They are giving out disinformation, exaggerating the evidence and paying little attention to the Defense... The Jury IS listening, God help you...Judge Mudd...they are".

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51 posted on 08/05/2002 10:52:55 AM PDT by spectre
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To: Jacy29
JC, this was another one of the RUMORS spread (apparently intentionally) by the POLICE.

There is a whole list of items that the MEDIA and the POLICE spewed out to the public in efforts to (1)capitalize on the sensationalism and (2) Ensure the public that the police had found a scapegoat and the public could now relax and let their children back out on the streets of SD.

The fact that at the same time (JAN-FEB) a major CHILD PORN RING was uncovered in SD and Poway, and 2 of the major kingpins in it were arrested (one Jan 27th, the other Feb 18th) was kept fairly quiet.

There was traces of DNA found in her BED, that were not DW's. Matter of fact they remain UNIDENTIFIED.

52 posted on 08/05/2002 10:53:10 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
How's this? "Dusekcated" - the chewed-up condition of a prosecutor who has no case to begin with, after his 'bugsperts' helped the defendant's case more than his.
53 posted on 08/05/2002 10:53:48 AM PDT by MagnoliaMS
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To: Jacy29
Neal and the minors. That's all. I would imagine Neal's was part of a deal with Dusek. Hate to have to be Neal when this is all over.
54 posted on 08/05/2002 10:57:04 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: UCANSEE2
I think extra prayer in the next few days would be a good thing.
55 posted on 08/05/2002 10:59:20 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: Palladin
NO where on any of these threads has FRES EVER said he was a District Attorney... Those closest to him know what DA stands for.

Oh, are YOU really THE Palladin?

sw

56 posted on 08/05/2002 11:00:04 AM PDT by spectre
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To: dread78645; ~Kim4VRWC's~; All
There's no evidence that the VD's had some special cable lines going into/out of their house.

There's no evidence they were filming Danielle undetected and selling this on the internet, or selling it to the 2 men arrested in SD and Poway for running a CHILD PORN RING.

There's no evidence that either of those 2 men (known for capturing little girls and raping them on video and selling the videos) decided to kidnap Danielle, then dumped her body just before police homed in on the second man.

There's no evidence that Damon was a major salesman/mule for Child Porn in his trips back and forth to Europe.

There's no evidence that police found trace evidence of Cocaine in the VD home, but were convinced by a certain retired policewoman and a certain PR team (both of which were at the VD's side from the first moment of this crisis) to ignore this.

There's no evidence that the parents were in any was responsible for knowing the whereabouts of their daughter.

There's no evidence the parents left their children unattended in the home while they were out working/getting pizza/buying drugs/having sex with their friends/going to paintball arcades.

57 posted on 08/05/2002 11:01:44 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jaded
Jaded, I'm with you. Maybe we can set aside a specific time every day to pray especially for the jury to have wisdom, that they shall see the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help them, God. If some of us can pray at the same time, we will be two or more gathered together. ;o)

58 posted on 08/05/2002 11:05:54 AM PDT by shezza
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To: Palladin
Well. Welcome back.

If you are going to tell someone they are wrong, make sure you are right before you begin.

The DA and FresnoDA has nothing to do with the term District Attorney. OK~!

You are right in that swinging, in general, has nothing to do with DW's guilt.

Pot smoking has nothing to do with DW's guilt.

BUT, BOTH THINGS do relate directly to Danielle's disappearance and her parent's DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY for that.

If you think some total stranger got in, past the dog, Damon and the other 2 boys, and carried Danielle out of the house, then I can see where you get your conclusion.

If you go back and review all the testimony from the Prelim Hearing, and the TRIAL, and review the EVIDENCE, you will find that the parents were IRRESPONSIBLE. That it is possible neither were home for much of the evening and the daughter ran outside herself looking for them, or ran away from home.

You will see that the parents lied to police for 17 hours, during which, had they provided the TRUTH, their daughter could possibly have been found alive.

In short, rather than CHECK on their kids safety, the two parents were BUSY SWINGING and DOING DRUGS. NOW, you tell us, were the PARENTS responsible for their daughter? Were they acting RESPONSIBLE?

Just wanted to help you catch up to where most people who have really followed the case are.

59 posted on 08/05/2002 11:10:52 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: shezza
I'm in for the prayer's. We need to ping MizSterious when we do it, OK..

sw

60 posted on 08/05/2002 11:22:16 AM PDT by spectre
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