Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..

Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

[John Jamieson]

Do you think it's right to leave 3 little kids home alone while you go to visit your drug dealer? How could these people even have the time to raise three little kids with all their other more important desires?

[cyncooper]

My understanding was that is was something like 1 or 2 hairs and the fiber jammed into a crevice of the choker. Maybe the transcript would help clarify. I don't remember it being a HUGE wad of hair, by any means.

ANYONE ELSE remember or want to post the testimony

UCANSEE2, I can hardly believe this statement of yours. Please review this thread. I have posted the testimony---lengthy excerpts---from both direct AND cross-examination!!!

I backed it up. In fact, until today I didn't realized what a huge clump of hair it was.

[the Deejay]

"I have reasonable cause to believe that Mr. Westerfield is guilty" of kidnapping and murdering the 7-year-old girl, Superior Court Judge H. Ronald Domnitz ruled.


I found it. Okay, I got his *exact* words incorrect, but it's appalling he even used the word "guilty." Usually, a judge will say, "I have reasonable cause to bind (so & so) over for trial." Something more on that line, but never use the word, "guilty."

[cyncooper]

Ya think you're the *only* one?

Of course not!

[UCANSEE2]

(1) Many of these 'orange fibers at DW's, What was the source?

(2)1 fiber on Danielle that COULD be a perfect match. Did it have the root, or was it just partial. How many hairs with the fiber? Was it a HUGE WAD?

(3)Danielle had been in DW's house, and COULD have gotten the fiber in her hair then. Police were in DW's house, the MH, the SUV, tracking orange fibers possibly.

(4)Orange fibers in the MH (right?) Would be coming from DW carrying them from house to MH.

(5) Orange Fibers found around Danielle's body (were there, how many?)

(6) Blue/Grey Fibers ... this is where you can take over.

(7)Orange fibers in SUV. HOw many?

The other evidence is:
2 drops positive for Daneille's DNA, but never proved to be blood. The one by the MH bathroom was obviously not new or the dogs would have HIT on it.

The INVESTIGATOR testified it could be up to a YEAR OLD.

1 partial print in the MH in under the edge of a cabinet. Not found on first examination. Found on re-examination. (to my best recollection)

ONE hair found in sink trap. No attempt to identify if other hairs in sink, or whose they were, or whether Danielle's was first in/last in. Only that this 1 hair was there.

Easily transferred during cookie sale to something in the DW home that eventually could end up taken into MH.

SO, that pretty much sums up the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

I Plan to keep a working list where we can eliminate or not be able to eliminate each item.

[John Jamieson]

Nancy Grace said twice yesterday that Danielles body was "covered in orange fibers". I fell out of my chair.

[the Deejay]

"Wasn't her fault, poor baby."

I know. That's basicly what I posted. It's the parents fault if a child that age appears dirty, as well as sad.

[Jrabbit]

Post #407....

[hoosiermama]

Yes there were fibers, but some how in all your research, you missed the fact that they were similar but because of being common they probably did NOT come from the same source.

DO you not understand what that means? You have blue shirt I have blue shirt. DO you shop at Walmart? They share the some type of threads. But my threads are not in your house and yours sure better not be in mine! Identical threads not from the same source! UNDERSTAND? That IS what was said!

[John Jamieson]

OK, I'll split it with you. He was too strong allright, but did not go over the edge. Thanks for looking it up.

[cyncooper]

Nancy Grace said twice yesterday that Danielles body was "covered in orange fibers". I fell out of my chair.

Yeah, somebody posted that yesterday. OH, BROTHER!

I also remember someone saying that on Larry King she kept saying the MH had been steamcleaned!!!

[UCANSEE2]

I backed it up. In fact, until today I didn't realized what a huge clump of hair it was.

Ok. Can you tell me where you posted this? I have to go soon and do want to know. If it was such a huge clump of hair, how did it get stuck to the choker? Was it from the animals? I know there were clumps of hair trailing from her body.

[Krodg]

The peliminary judge did say he felt that Westerfield was guilty.

[nycgal]

Maybe if we can put all the numbers/colors/types of fibers and where found together in one list, we all might have a clearer picture.

I'd be glad to help compile a list of the fiber evidence. Going thru those transcripts is not easy, though.

[cyncooper]

Yes, I understand!

Unfortunately you and I disagree on the implications.

What is your explanation as to why Danielle's nude body would have those blue fibers on it? She wasn't wearing clothes to retain innocent fibers.

[John Jamieson]

I think that proves conclusively that she was killed in a Super Walmart in the sweater section.

[John Jamieson]

Wife says a lot more orange at Kmart.

[clearvision]

Orange fibers: It was in the 10's in the SUV. Put a big maybe on the RV orange fibers. I've looked hard and can not find a strong statement about orange fibers in the RV.

[the Deejay]

"The peliminary judge did say he felt that Westerfield was guilty."

I couldn't move for about 10 minutes when I heard him use the word, "guilty." Judges just don't use that particular word, until a defendant has been found guilty. Then, they usually say, "You have been found guilty......" blah, blah, blah.

[John Jamieson]

Correction, I miss heard the miss, IT rules out Kmart and Target.