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Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..
Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

Posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:51 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: mommya
The other odd thing about that weekend, is Brenda testifying that Damon was going to the cabin both Fri and Sat nights. If he was planning on being there Sat night anyway, why would he need to change his plans to go with Libby?
261 posted on 07/31/2002 12:59:47 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Jaded; mommya; UCANSEE2
Do you know if the transcripts for DW on CTV have been edited on purpose? page 3 is posted twice.. Look at page 3 then pages 4 and 5, see if the transition questions and answers fit each other. (pages 3 and 4 are the same..a page is missing)
http://www.courttv.com/trials/westerfield/docs/police03.htmlhttp://www.courttv.com/trials/westerfield/docs/police04.html

I can't find the quote from what I heard on tv. He specifically said on the tape (tv mind you) that it was a spur of the moment. I went throught the transcripts 3 times and can't find it. It has to be on the missing page. Is there another source for his statement?

It was obviously planned, cuz according to neal's testimony, dw told neal to not show up until monday cuz dw himself was going to be on a road trip.. (remember, that's according to neal's testimony)

262 posted on 07/31/2002 1:01:51 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Jaded; mommya; UCANSEE2
I forgot the (br), sorry http://www.courttv.com/trials/westerfield/docs/police03.html
http://www.courttv.com/trials/westerfield/docs/police04.html

Ucansee, tis ok

263 posted on 07/31/2002 1:02:44 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Jrabbit
Redden interupts too much.

Not necessarily interrupts.

Hours of the interview were redacted into the 45 minute tape played for the jury.

Here is Dusek asking the judge to so instruct the jury so they realize this:

MR. DUSEK: AND, FINALLY, HAVING LISTENED TO THE TAPE, I BELIEVE THE COURT SHOULD MAKE SOME INDICATION TO THE JURY THAT THE TAPE HAS BEEN REDACTED. THERE'S OBVIOUS CHANGES IN THERE, GAPS. AND IT CERTAINLY ENDS WITHOUT A NORMAL FLOW TO THE END. SO I THINK THE JURY SHOULD BE ADVISED THAT NOBODY'S MESSING WITH THE EVIDENCE.

THE COURT: ALL RIGHT.

264 posted on 07/31/2002 1:04:38 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Jaded; mommya; UCANSEE2
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/thu/news/news_1n25rest.html

Neal Westerfield said he was supposed to go to his father's house Sunday night, Feb. 3, but his father told him the week before that "he was going to be out of town that Sunday and to just come over Monday." This piece of testimony seemed to bolster the defense's contention that Westerfield's weekend journey was planned, not a spur-of-the-moment trip as the prosecution has suggested.

Need the entire transcript for DW

265 posted on 07/31/2002 1:07:00 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: cyncooper
No need to get to mad when people don't agree with what you think of the evidence.

Yes, you are right. The day nurse here at the mental hospital didn't give me my valium. Sorry.

:)

266 posted on 07/31/2002 1:08:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: demsux; RnMomof7; Jrabbit; Jaded; FresnoDA
To whomever is in the stealth chatroom:
Please turn out the lights when you leave.
267 posted on 07/31/2002 1:09:44 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Did they ever say WHY the trip with Bill Libby was canceled?

Damon "claims" that Libby (and his son) decided that he wanted to go on Sunday, so Damon decided to wait to ride with Libby. Wouldn't that mean the two boys would miss school on Monday??

The reason that I used the term "claims", is because I don't believe ANYTHING that the lying SOB Damon says...he waited 17+ hours before telling LE the truth regarding drug use/sexual perversion AT THEIR HOME.

During those 17+ hours, his daughter was missing, presumed kidnapped, presumed raped and presumed killed.

BUT he didn't think drug use/sexual perversion were important enough to mention to LE as they searched for his daughter.

DAMON is a SLEAZY, LYING, PERVERT.

268 posted on 07/31/2002 1:11:59 PM PDT by demsux
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To: juzcuz
Hi Juzcus...If ya would have asked me on the day that was shown on tv, I could have answered. :) I'll see if there's another source somewhere. I would think that in the transcripts, it would have been pointed out..not sure!
269 posted on 07/31/2002 1:12:44 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: cyncooper
See #262
270 posted on 07/31/2002 1:14:31 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: juzcuz
Not sure the answer is out there..

There is a better pic in this article

http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/sand/news/stories/news-152956920020625-110619.html
271 posted on 07/31/2002 1:18:52 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
OUCH! That little "golden comment" of mine, as Nancy Grace would say "came back to bite me on the neck"!

Actually, my quote was taken out of the original context, which was to quote and mock Nancy Grace when she would report the story...It's not what I believe...trial fans. Just a spoof..ha, ha..

sw

272 posted on 07/31/2002 1:19:30 PM PDT by spectre
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Maybe where he went to either SS or Glamis was spur of the moment. It has been speculated that he went to Silver Strand, perhaps to meet up with someone. That someone didn't show up. He went to Glamis instead. Apparently when he was talking to Mark and Janet he wasn't sure where he was going. I find it highly unlikely that he would have Danielle with him when he returned to the neighborhood.

I'll not finish with this speculation because that's all it it.
273 posted on 07/31/2002 1:23:36 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: demsux
"DAMON is a SLEAZY, LYING, PERVERT."

I'll 2nd. that. Also, Brenda's just as sleazy, a liar & a pervert. (Asking *strange* men at a bar to go home with her.)


274 posted on 07/31/2002 1:23:51 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: demsux
They were pulling the kids out of school in a few weeks to go to Italy. What's a Monday? /so
275 posted on 07/31/2002 1:24:51 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: juzcuz
Click video link about the orange fibers on this page...left side about 1/2 way down. There is a news report, and discussion of the orange fibers is towards the end.

http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/sand/news/stories/news-153208320020626-130602.html
276 posted on 07/31/2002 1:24:55 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Need the entire transcript for DW

THIS is the reason, I believe, for the major differences in opinion that we have.

I believe when the MEDIA hype comes out and says something (especially during this case) you can assume they took it out of context to make the MOST out of it.

They have repeatedly done so.

DW told police it was a spur of the moment trip.

First, we must know exactly when this statement was made, and where in the conversation it occurred.

A big deal was made by the media and prosecution that DW said "this (the desert) would be a good place to hide a body".

BUT, we don't know exactly when he made this statement, and we don't know what was said to him before that statement.

For all we know, the POLICE said "Hey, what do you think? If You just killed this Danielle, where would you hide the body?"

But, the police didn't tell us what context his statement was in, did they?

I believe if they had, the jig would be up.

The police tell you anything you say can be held against you. What they don't say is that they don't have to tell anyone what they said.

277 posted on 07/31/2002 1:28:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jaded


This is the fiber comparison photo I keep seeing. Those two fibers do not look the same to me. They don't look like the same color, width, texture, etc. I just don't even know what to think about this photo.

The fiber on the left is definitely orange, and has bright orange streaks running through it. The one on the right is more yellow-y, and doesn't have the same bright orange streaks. In addition, the fiber on the right has long white streaks through it that the fiber on the left doesn't have. The fiber on the left looks narrower and rounder than the fiber on the right, which looks kind of broad and flattened.

If I were examining these fibers for evidence, my first guess would be that they DIDN'T match.
278 posted on 07/31/2002 1:30:24 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Thanks--

The article talks about orange and blue fibers .. However, "Blue fiber pictured on right", is what they are showing... I guess this is supposed to be a comparison of the blue fibers that she studied.
279 posted on 07/31/2002 1:31:01 PM PDT by juzcuz
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To: UCANSEE2
Of course..context context context.

I blame court tv for failing to make sure what it posted on its website was accurate. They did provide a wonderful service, as well as sandiego.com for posting transcripts..but to actually leave an entire page out is just beyond stupid.

280 posted on 07/31/2002 1:31:29 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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