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Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..
Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

Posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:51 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: Eva
There seems to be some question about what color orange is.

The color 'orange' is some combination of the primary colors 'red' and 'yellow' and can range in appearance from red to yellow depending on the amounts of each dye. If Brenda or some other woman was wearing such a sweater, was in the VD home and then was in contact with DW or contacted someone who then contacted DW, this could explain the orange acrylic fibers. Acrylic is very well known for 'static' which would make the transfer of numerous fibers more likely than not, especially in a dry climate like San Diego.

181 posted on 07/31/2002 11:14:14 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: mommya
Expanding on my thoughts from above.....Maybe there are jurors who think that he did do it - but that the stuff in the MH is old - like the defense suggests - since the dogs did not hit there - maybe they don't buy an innocent explanation - but maybe they even think he had her in there on some prior occasion to try to get close to her - just let her look around or maybe something more sinister - like molest her - anyway - since the dogs did not hit - they could believe that she was in there sometime in the past - AND - they could still think he killed her - the two are not mutually exclusive - are they. That's why I am thinking they should offer the lesser charge.
182 posted on 07/31/2002 11:16:58 AM PDT by mommya
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To: cyncooper
It's a good question, but clearly something left those fibers (both orange and blue) on and near Danielle, and in DW's environment.

I agree with you Cyn. IF the police had found what it was, either we would all be on the same side of this case, or DW wouldn't even be on trial.

Many of us suspect they did find what it was, but since they already had committed to DW, didn't want to have it in evidence as it would clear him.

Ask yourself some other questions

Where is the BACKPACK found by Danielle's school?

Why did police never let anyone know if it was or was not Danielle's?

183 posted on 07/31/2002 11:18:24 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: clearvision
The trial transcripts of 7-9-02 explain some things, IMO. Blue/grey fibers are 3/10 of an inch long. Orange acrylic are 1 and 1/2 in. Feldman referred to BVD wearing orange sweater in courtroom the day before....sort of. He changed to hypothetical orange sweater and asked witness if she compared orange fibers to any BVD clothing. Answer was no. He also referred to the many colors of fibers found on the sheet and got witness to agree to source as possible multi-colored blanket. Witness agreed that fiber on necklace was dull orange-others were bright orange. She excluded 2 fibers from SUV because one was wool and the other was a "different color of orange".
184 posted on 07/31/2002 11:19:48 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit
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185 posted on 07/31/2002 11:21:24 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: mommya
The prosecution does not want just a murder charge, because they then have to prove he murdered her and maybe intent. With the kidnapping/murder charge all they have to prove is that she was with him that weekend (kidnapping) and then since she is dead it is assumed murder. They do not have to prove he murdered in the 2nd case.
186 posted on 07/31/2002 11:23:07 AM PDT by clearvision
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To: clearvision
I can't find any testimony that dog hairs were found in the SUV.

Testimony June 24th

187 posted on 07/31/2002 11:25:57 AM PDT by dread78645
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To: clearvision
Do you think they should have the other type charge allowed?
188 posted on 07/31/2002 11:28:12 AM PDT by mommya
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To: mommya
I heard the resoning somewhere that if the count was 1st degree standing alone, that premeditation would have to be shown. That would be a higher standard.

IIRC, the kidnapping charge being filed first allowed the death to immediately bump the case up to the death penalty.

I seem to recall some speculation at the time that they got word on the body, rushed to arrest dw on kidnapping charges, and only then 'allowed' the body to be found. That was back in the days that I believed he was a creep, before I saw how flimsy the 'evidence' was.
189 posted on 07/31/2002 11:28:19 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: FresnoDA
Couldn't get in.
190 posted on 07/31/2002 11:29:22 AM PDT by mommya
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To: FresnoDA
I am there.....BUGGZ and HUGGZ!
191 posted on 07/31/2002 11:29:42 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: clearvision
Yeah, what you said. Guess I should have read a bit further.
192 posted on 07/31/2002 11:30:19 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: clearvision
. It appears the prosecution will argue that DW destroyed evidence

AND DON'T FORGET, the briefcase with A MILLION DOLLARS in it. It is mine, and I want the money back.!!!!!

193 posted on 07/31/2002 11:31:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: John Jamieson
"The only reason the prosecution can't prove DW did it, is they claim the perp went and destroyed all the evidence on them! The dog (or bugs) ate my homework approach..... therefore he must be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt."

A little late in the game for Dusuck to be claiming that, isn't it? According to his opening statement, I thought he was going to SHOW us how DW got into the house, took Danielle, killed her, and dumped her body? So far, he has yet to prove any of those, and the best he can do is, "Sorry, we can't link the fibers to a common source because DW got rid of all the evidence!"

Ok...he got rid of his orange blankie, his cowboy boots, the blue/grey fiber source...but DOESN'T get rid of the jacket with the supposed "blood" on it? Either he's innocent, or he's the dumbest criminal on the face of the earth.
194 posted on 07/31/2002 11:33:18 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: dread78645
I searched there before I posted and did not find any suv testimony (I searched on toyota and SUV and did not read it again). Are you saying there is SUV testimony there, or that was the dog hair testimony in general?
195 posted on 07/31/2002 11:35:07 AM PDT by clearvision
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To: mommya
Couldn't get in.

I can't, either. I'm probably doing something incorrectly.

196 posted on 07/31/2002 11:36:41 AM PDT by Steve0113
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To: clearvision
Don't hold me to it - but I think the stuff you're looking for may be Dulaney and Shen from aft.1 and aft.2 - day 18 in the transcripts.
197 posted on 07/31/2002 11:38:11 AM PDT by mommya
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
A little late in the game for Dusuck to be claiming that, isn't it?

It's VERY late in the game for that stunt.

198 posted on 07/31/2002 11:38:11 AM PDT by Steve0113
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To: mommya
That's why I am thinking they should offer the lesser charge.

Dusek has to get convictions on both counts to ask for the death penalty.

199 posted on 07/31/2002 11:41:33 AM PDT by dread78645
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To: dread78645
What do you mean?
200 posted on 07/31/2002 11:42:41 AM PDT by mommya
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