Evidence On Insects Likely To Continue: (Westerfield Trial "Creeps" Along At An Ant's Pace!)

Union Trib ^ | June 29, 2002 | Alex Roth

[VRWC_minion]

OK, I will play that game. I know of no one that has an orange blanket. That places the odds at 1/1000.

Ok play, but the rarer the material the more likely Westerfield did it.

[John Jamieson]

If Brenda did not hug her daughter before leaving for the evening, I'd be very surprised. Brenda hugged everybody.

[John Jamieson]

It doesn't matter how rare it was if it can from Brenda. It could have taggins in it and still be (in fact it SHOULD be)innocently on both DW and Danielle.

[VRWC_minion]

Did you state in your theory that you gave DAW 5 minutes to get in the BVDs house, abduct Danielle, and put her in the SUV

Yes but there is room for more and or less. The time line was self imposed to get Westerfield home by 6am if he started at 3:00 am

Why, do you think he or whoever abducted her would need more than 5 minutes ? I could probably walk up a flight of stairs enter a room grab something and return down a flight of stairs faster than 5 minutes.

[Dave_in_Upland]

Well to my knowledge the only source of orange and blue, and if you check they would be long acrylic fibers, are either a blanket or a pennent from DVD's alma mater. Again I ask, did DVD have those hanging in Daniells bedroom or drapped on her bed?

DW is a blue color guy, not an orange or earth tone guy. The only way he would have orange in his house is if they were left over towels from his girlfriend, and they would be orange.

[VRWC_minion]

If Brenda did not hug her daughter before leaving for the evening, I'd be very surprised. Brenda hugged everybody.

Feldman blew it then. Its not in evidence, therefore it didn't occur.

[dread78645]

Is it a 22 casing or is it something that looked like a 22 casing ?

I'm just getting up to speed on the thread.

I understad it was a rim-fired .22 shell ...
Rifle fired. I don't know of any hand-gun that rim-fires .22

[BigBobber]

On a previous thread, someone posted a link to orange police-type vests that were acrylic.

I would like to see the fiber evidence from Danielle's bed that is similar to what was found on her body. If it is not there that is strong evidence she never went to bed that night. How could carpet fibers from her room and Layla hairs be transported to DW's environment, but not be in her bed? No one testified to this.

The pajamas on the floor in her room were undoubtably the ones she would normally wear to bed, since there were few other clothes items on the floor. Why didn't she have them on? How come the van Dam's could produce pajamas "just like the one's she wore that night"? Where is the "sparkly outfit" bought for the dance? The sparkles were seen on the carpet in her room. Could she have worn it to bed that night?

[cyncooper]

Well, the fiber witness said the long acrylic fibers were like those that would be found in a blanket. FWIW.

P.S. DW is older and orange was popular, believe it or not, in the seventies as a decorating color so an old orange blanket is not beyond the realm of possibility.

[cyncooper]

Strange how those fibers were mostly just in the rear of the vehicle.

But not just in the rear. What about all the orange fibers in his house----bed and laundry?

[Freedom2specul8]

They apparently had enough real child porn, to disregard the animations the SC made legal.

http://video.uniontrib.com/news/metro/danielle/transcripts/20020626-9999-am2.html

Access times on some wasn't confirmed or denied.

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FELDMAN
18 A. ON THE ZIP DISKS FROM 16333, ALL BUT TWO OF THEM19 HAD THE LAST ACCESS DATE OF 6/5 OF 2000. TWO HAD THE LAST20 ACCESS DATE OF 3/11/2001.21 Q. OKAY. THAT'S AS TO THE ZIP DISK 16333, IS THAT22 RIGHT?

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14 SAYS LAST ACCESS, AND A SEPARATE COLUMN THAT SAYS LAST WRITTEN.15 AM I ACCURATE IN THAT?16 A. YES, YOU ARE.17 Q. YOU DON'T NOTE WITH REGARD TO 16332 THE DATE OF18 LAST ACCESS?19 A. THAT IS CORRECT.20 Q. WHY NOT?21 A. BECAUSE THERE WAS NO LAST ACCESS DATE ON THE MEDIA22 OR ON THE ZIP DISK. IT WAS JUST THE FILE WRITTEN DATE.

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(my notes: and with regards to some)
1 Q. YOU CANNOT TELL WHEN THEY WERE LAST ACCESSED,2 CORRECT?3 A. NO, SIR, I CANNOT. 4 A. AS I -- THAT'S FROM A C. D. THE LAST TWO ARE C.5 D.S, AND C. D.S, ONCE YOU ACCESS THEM, THEY DON'T CHANGE THE6 ACCESS TIME.

CLARK
20 BY MR. CLARKE:21 Q. MR. WATKINS, WITH REGARD TO THE C. D.S AND THE22 MOVIES, WOULD IT BE SPECULATION FOR YOU TO INTERPRET THAT THEY23 HAVE NOT BEEN ACCESSED SINCE THEY WERE CREATED?24 A. YES.25 Q. AND, IN FACT, THE C. D.S I THINK, AS YOU SAID

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25 Q. AND, IN FACT, THE C. D.S I THINK, AS YOU SAID26 EARLIER, DON'T ALLOW YOU TO DETERMINE WHEN THEY WERE LAST27 VIEWED; IS THAT CORRECT?28 A. YES, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT.64441 Q. IS THAT ALSO TRUE WITH REGARD TO THE ZIP DISKS IF2 THEY'RE, IN FACT, -- AND, I'M SORRY, WAS THE TERM "LOCKED" OR3 "PROTECTED"?4 A. YES, SIR.5 Q. SO YOU CAN'T TELL WHEN THEY WERE LAST -- I'M SORRY,6 LAST ACCESSED IF THEY WERE IN THAT CONDITION?7 A. THAT IS CORRECT.

[FresnoDA]

Like, Man, it aint orange...it is a burnt red hue dude.....

 

[John Jamieson]

Its not in evidence, therefore it didn't occur

What? You suppose someone had a bm that night and didn't tell us. There are millions of details that really occurred, but we didn't hear about them.

Feldman's not finished yet. The source of the peacock fibers was not specified by Dusek, but that doesn't mean that Feldman won't tell us.

[sunshine state]

I think it would take longer, but I don't know how much longer. He still has to cover the ground from his house to their house and back. Plus, he's 50, not physically fit, he doesn't know the layout of the house, and she weighs close to 60 lbs. Also, I THINK he has to strip her. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong. All the talk with the PJs has me confused.

As an aside, I was looking at the floorplan someone posted of the BVDs house. Why exactly did they theorize that DAW was hiding in the closet? It seems to me that the bathroom across the hall was a much better hiding place.

[Dave_in_Upland]

LMAO P.S. DW is older and orange was popular, believe it or not, in the seventies as a decorating color

FWIW I am of the same age and locale and mindset of DW and I can guarentee that he has no old blankets left over from the 70's. LOL If he is like most men of that age he has fond rememberances of the era, but has no desire to remember. Hell, I bet that he even had a lilac jumpsuit, but you will never get him to admit it. (I plead the 5th)

[FresnoDA]

Snip...Snip...Snip...Snip....

[alexandria]

It would also explain LE not wanting to photograph this "blood stain" as it would have been smeared (from shoe) and not dripped.

[FresnoDA]

Hmm.....where is that evidence that a PERP entered the VD home??  Where oh where could it be....

Premature Steam Cleaning.....does it to a crime scene, every time.....

 

Closet Doors Removed

SAN DIEGO , CA - For the second time in as many days Wednesday, investigators returned to the van Dam home and removed more potential evidence. The closet doors were taken from Danielle's room. Authorities hope to remove finger prints from the doors.

[John Jamieson]

Did rape her in the bed, the motorhome, the SUV, or the washing machine?

This is getting rediculous. A drunk, recently serviced, DW manages to stear his newly orangefiber loaded SUV home. Plops full dressed on the bed in his orangefiber laden black Johnny Cash outfit. Wakes up in the morning and throwns his orangefiber coated sheets in the laundry. All without managing to kill the neighborhood kid.

[FresnoDA]

Just hanging around to give out this evenings award...somebody hurry up and post...