Evidence On Insects Likely To Continue: (Westerfield Trial "Creeps" Along At An Ant's Pace!)

Union Trib ^ | June 29, 2002 | Alex Roth

[cyncooper]

However, you a right I don't recall what forensic evidence was in the SUV. I thought I remembered some fiber evidence on her that was also found on SUV.

Orange fibers in SUV.

As an aside, testimony from police is the SUV looked freshly washed. Normal pattern was for DW to drive to MH storage and have son drive SUV home. Neal, the son testified this is because it is very dusty at Keith Sherman's. SUV wasn't dusty from sitting at Sherman's Saturday and Sunday----fwiw.

[UCANSEE2]

I don't think any of us know where he is going with the evidence just yet.

I think we all know where he is going, what he tried to do, and just about where things are at.

[UCANSEE2]

No, but that is so common I don't think they bother making news of it much.

[VRWC_minion]

Where did he commit the rape?

In RVIn

? You said he didn't do it in the MH but his penis dripped blood in there. I am beginning to worry about you.

I said he didn't drive anywhere in RV. Why must you assume someone needs to drive an RV and they cannot just use the bedroom ?

[UCANSEE2]

By asking to have lesser charge entered, I wonder if Feldman is sending a signal he is willing to take a deal if offered by prosecutor ?

You are missing the point of going with the lesser charge. It requires more proof. Something the Prosecution's case lacks. So far it is all EMOTION because of a dead little girl and that is all DUSEK HAS to capitalize on. If he has to prove HOW/WHEN/WHERE, his case is sunk. PROOF I am right? Watch how hard DUSEK fights to NOT LOWER THE CHARGE.

[cyncooper]

...and not believe the dogs missed and that she could have been there some other time.

Can you point me to the testimony about the dogs missing? Thanks.

I think you are correct in your analysis of why Feldman would want the other count and why the prosecution wants the one count.

[UCANSEE2]

Here, let me help you and save you some time.Regardless of the theories used he she has to be in the SUV at least once. Unless the pros is going to claim that she was tied up in house while he got RV and managed to get her into it unseen while at the house.

Ridiculous!, right? So, if she was never in the SUV, then NO CASE, HE DIDN'T DO IT. This is your theory and what you say is Dusek's.

However, you a right I don't recall what forensic evidence was in the SUV.

THERE WAS NONE. CASE OVER. You CAN REST, NOW.

[Karson]

OK, thanks. So many names...so little memory. :-(

[John Jamieson]

No proven blood in motorhome. How could you possibly know where the infamous drop of DNA came from? You seem to have a very vivid memory of this crime, way beyond anything the prosecution is claiming. Wouldn't a beer bottle be even more inflammatory?

[UCANSEE2]

Kim, my response was in response to the idea that the PROS in the Skakel case pulled some kind of rabbit out of his hat, and that DUSEK will do the same here.

(1) Cases not at all the same.

(2) the Prosec in the Skakel case did no such thing. It was discussed and debunked already once. Did you miss that discussion.

Sure The prosec is supposed to summary the case. Just because he does a summary doesn't mean HE WINS AUTOMATICALLY. He has to have a case first. Don't think he does. We will see what the Jury thinks as what I think doesn't mean a hill of beans to anyone but me.

[rolling_stone]

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1027674620105315.xml

planted gun....LOL...

[UCANSEE2]

The larger point is that you really have no idea what the prosecutor's theory is yet. You are attempting to read between the lines and you may not be reading correctly.

(1) Again, you are right, I don't know what DUSEK has on his mind to say at the end.

(2)I say, if after DUSEK presents all this side of the case, (which for all intents and purposes he has) that no one knows what his theory on the case is, means he lost.

[BigBobber]

Your timeline makes more sense than the DA's implied theory that DW had Danielle in the MH all weekend.

Still, if DW did it, Danielle had to be in the SUV at some point that night, and there is no evidence of her in there.

DW would have had a busy night, which may be why he was holed up at the Silver Strand all Saturday morning.

I'm getting tired of the newspapers and even Judge Mudd stating Danielle was snatched from her house. There is zero evidence of an abductor entering the house. It is more likely she left the house on her own or with her father.

I think there is still a slim chance DW hit her while driving home drunk. This seems to be implied by the defense arguments today about murder 2. DW had a prior DUI. If he hit someone that night he knew he was in big trouble.

I have always been disturbed by DW's statment to police that he did not remember how he got home that night.

[cyncooper]

The fingerprints, blood and fibers were all planted by the LE just to throw everyone off the fact that Danielle was never in the MH that weekend!

VRWC_minion's theory is that the rape and murder did take place in the MH. I don't agree with his theory of the when and how, though.

[UCANSEE2]

And your point? I am very interested in what you are trying to point out.

[spectre]

Yes, they have to use logic and reason.

I have tried to logically reason out how people are willing to buy into Westerfield getting into and out of the Van Dam house, etc., without so much as a fingerprint or a witness.

versus

How people are unwilling to accept it is more logical to assume that Danielle could have been able to sneak into an unlocked motorhome, without any witnesses, and leave a couple of prints.

I mean, if we are supposed to buy into Stealth Ninja Dave (which obviously had to happen for the crime to take place). Then WHY on this earth, is it so hard for anyone to accept that Danielle actually was able to sneak into a Motor Home sight unseen?

Which situation, in reality, is most likely to have happened? Duhhhh.

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[demsux]

I've forgotten, why was it that Brenda took Danielle out of school early that Friday? To get a passport photo?

I recently got a passport photo and it took about 10 minutes...why take her out early?

[the Deejay]

You have FREEPMAIL.

[VRWC_minion]

There is zero evidence of an abductor entering the house.

It is my understanding that of the few abductions that we have read about there is ussually no evidence left behind that implicates the abductor.

[EllaMinnow]

SUV fiber evidence testimony was given on July 9, if you want to check the transcript.