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Evidence On Insects Likely To Continue: (Westerfield Trial "Creeps" Along At An Ant's Pace!)
Union Trib ^ | June 29, 2002 | Alex Roth

Posted on 07/28/2002 8:56:21 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: VRWC_minion; spectre; All
Any comments you or others have about the three hour suggested scenario would be greatly appreciated.

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Yeah right.....

No way...I'm not going after any VDA thread bait....


261 posted on 07/29/2002 2:52:25 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: BARLF; ~Kim4VRWC's~
I'd sure like to know what the additional 1 or 2 meetings between BVD and DW were about. As you can see in her testimony, she first said there were 4 meetings, then quickly changed it to 5 or 6. A visit or two to the MH with Danielle in tow?
262 posted on 07/29/2002 2:53:25 PM PDT by nycgal
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To: VRWC_minion
To try and connect him to an "alledged" child porn ring would be irresponsible not to mention grounds for appeal.

If they had DW's name/address or phone number from a CHILD PORN RING website proving he downloaded the porn from there, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD IT IN COURT.

If he was on a mailing list, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD IT IN COURT.

IF they had videos/images with DW having sex with a child, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD IT IN COURT.

Is there some other 'way' you have that he could be connected with a CHILD PORN ring? That wouldn't be admissible in court?

263 posted on 07/29/2002 2:53:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: FresnoDA
...her badly decomposed and nude body, minus a foot and reproductive organs, was discovered along a rural roadside in East San Diego County. Because of the body’s condition, the medical examiner was unable to determine the exact cause of death or if little Danielle had been sexually molested.

I'd say that if her "reproductive organs" were missisng that it is a safe bet that she'd been sexually molested -- unless animals got to the body.

264 posted on 07/29/2002 2:55:20 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: VRWC_minion; FresnoDA
Do you have any rudimentary comments as opposed to rude ones ?

That is about the gentlest 'rude' comment I have ever seen. He was trying to be polite, as you seem to want to argue the case, but haven't bothered to gain any knowledge of the details of the case.

I.E. Why bother arguing something you know nothing about?

265 posted on 07/29/2002 2:56:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Nothing worse than pesky facts getting in the way of fantasy theories....darn it...
266 posted on 07/29/2002 2:58:43 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: mommya
It would be intersting to know more about the beetles - did they get into them at all?

The first bug guy (originally for the prosecution) stated "although adult beetles were present, there were NO beetle larvae." This is how he says he knew it was the primary infestation.

267 posted on 07/29/2002 2:59:20 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: UCANSEE2
Wouldn't they have to prove that such a "ring" existed ? I believe that it would be a question of fact and that because only arrests have been made it would be impossible to say he was part of something that had yet to be proved.

It may also be the DA's intention to file charges for teh ring if he gets off of the existing charge.

But all of this is speculation.

268 posted on 07/29/2002 2:59:54 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
Could you lead me to the documentation and at the same time explain the relevance of this casing ?

It is all there. FresDA just posted tons of links. All the past DW/Danielle threads are still here on FREE REPUBLIC. You can use GOOGLE to search other websites. You can go to the SanDiego Channel and they have links to all the transcripts.

Here is the real problem.

YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE HIM DRINK.

269 posted on 07/29/2002 3:01:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: nycgal
I thought perhaps when she and Danielle delivered the cookies but they only delivered cookies the year before. Brenda changed the "how many time"..........right. Guess it wasn't important to the case as no one persued her revelation. In fact, just reading Dusek's opening that I believe Fres posted a few ago, Dusek was going with the lesser amount of meetings between BvD and DW.*sigh*
270 posted on 07/29/2002 3:02:51 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: MizSterious; Politicalmom

Uhmm....please tell me it will not become a park with SWING SETS!! EEWWW!!!

Council to consider buying part of Van Dam Peak

ANDREA MOSS
Staff Writer

7/29/02

POWAY ---- A 20-acre section of a peak named after a former Poway teacher and her family would become city-owned open space, under a purchase plan to be considered Tuesday by the City Council.

The owners of the property, on the south face of Van Dam Peak in the southwestern corner of the city, have agreed to sell the site to the city for $210,000. The council will be asked to approve the deal during a council meeting beginning at 7 p.m. Tuesday at City Hall.


If the purchase goes through, it will be the first Poway has made in its effort to preserve the city's prominent peaks or other land forms The council set aside $2 million for that purpose last year.

Van Dam Peak stands at the northern end of Iola Way, a residential street off Poway Road that is just inside the city's western border. City Manager Jim Bowersox said Friday the peak was named after Mary Van Dam and her family in the early 1980s.

Van Dam never lived in Poway; instead, she and her husband had a home just outside the city limits in what is now Sabre Springs. Van Dam taught in Poway schools, though, for a number of years.

She is also known to many as the author of the book, "As I Remember Poway." Dedicated to the pioneer families who settled Poway, the book covers the city's history and is filled with tidbits that paint a picture of how the area's early residents farmed, mined for gold, got around the region, entertained themselves and more.

Now in its third printing, the book is still a big seller at the Poway Historical and Memorial Society Museum in Old Poway, said society President Mary Whitton and long-time Van Dam friend Dolora Powers.

The peak named after Van Dam encompasses about 240 acres. Filled with coastal sage scrub, the site is listed as a priority area for habitat conservation in the city's habitat conservation plan.

Bowersox said the city is negotiating with the owners of two 80-acre parcels on the peak, in hopes of buying them as well. Any property the city buys on the peak will be designated as permanent open space, he said.

To set aside the money to preserve significant landforms, the council created a so-called "mitigation bank." The bank offers developers the chance to "buy" credits to preserving environmentally sensitive property in exchange for being allowed to build on such land in other parts of the city.

 

Contact staff writer Andrea Moss at (760) 739-6654 or amoss@nctimes.com.

271 posted on 07/29/2002 3:05:15 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: UCANSEE2
Why bother arguing something you know nothing about?,

To learn. Is there something I posted about the scenario that is wrong ? Those who believe he did it were kind enough to let me know there problems with it and I was able to answer them to their satisfaction. I have read Westerfields version of events, as well as a number of other documents from which to determine the above.

Are my opinions only valid if they encompass everything on ever written ?

FWIW, this is the first time the repsonse to me by the side that beleives Westerfield didn't do it is to claim I a ignorant rather than to point out a flaw. I wonder why that is ? If it were easy to specify a flaw I would assume someone on that side would mention it rather than doing a complete list of documents ?

Which is easier? to say you are wrong because of XY and Z or to throw the entire list of FR links on a post ?

272 posted on 07/29/2002 3:05:50 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: UCANSEE2
YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE HIM DRINK.

I did drink. Why play games. Why not point out the flaws and then I'll attempt to research them ? Or are their no flaws other than you disagree ?

274 posted on 07/29/2002 3:07:26 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
FWIW, this is the first time the repsonse to me by the side that beleives Westerfield didn't do it is to claim I a ignorant rather than to point out a flaw.

The reason a response was required....

BILE/Phlem cleanout was needed.....

Couldn't hold anymore of the pabulum....

But not to worry, all cleaned out and vented now, so proceed with more of your learned and in depth theories....../so

276 posted on 07/29/2002 3:10:51 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
Well, I made use of your "thread dump"! The VD's changed the account of checking the back slider numerous times. So, thanks for saving me the time of looking elsewhere.
277 posted on 07/29/2002 3:10:54 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: VRWC_minion
First I think it important to notice a pattern that I have seen repeatedly on Free Republic. No one usuually keep a grudge. As long as a person seems to honest want to converse/discuss/argue an issue, most posters on here will keep doing so.

Anyway....

Wouldn't they have to prove that such a "ring" existed ?

I believe the group in Sweden did so, they were just having the operatives arrested.

I believe that it would be a question of fact and that because only arrests have been made it would be impossible to say he was part of something that had yet to be proved.

Well, if they were selling CHILD RAPE PORN and they had evidence of it, videos of CHILDREN being RAPED and those CHILDREN'S DEAD BODIES with evidence as to their age, and DW was in them, or his name was on a mailing list, that is called EVIDENCE and you don't have to prove evidence, you use it to prove.

278 posted on 07/29/2002 3:11:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: basscleff

THREADJACKAL PARADE...LEFT/RIGHT...LEFT/RIGHT...LEFT/RIGHT.....(HHHHAAAA...LOL)


280 posted on 07/29/2002 3:15:42 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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