Evidence On Insects Likely To Continue: (Westerfield Trial "Creeps" Along At An Ant's Pace!)

Union Trib ^ | June 29, 2002 | Alex Roth

[VRWC_minion]

. It didn't sound as if those were the clothes that she wore to school the previous day but if not, where were THEY?

no telling how old the stuff might be on our kids clothing. The only estimate we could make for sure is based on whether it still fits, their date of birth or the last date we moved in. Anything later is up for grabs.

[Eva]

The fact that the body just happens to be the distance that someone could drive from the Van Dams and return the general location by sunrise means to me that whoever took her wanted to be back in the area before sunrise and they worried about being missed if not.

I don't understand how you figure this could apply to Westerfield. No one would have missed him on Saturday morning. When did he pick up the motorhome. How do you suppose he got a dead child into the motorhome in daylight? Maybe I missed something.

[BARLF]

Kim, I hope you aren't including me in your "us." I stated this was Brenda's testimony and where to find it. I don't know how to cut and paste as nycgal did. I'm a computer dummy.

[VRWC_minion]

I have two options for the shell casing.

Is it a 22 casing or is it something that looked like a 22 casing ?

[Jrabbit]

Huh? These were the clothes found by Le on her bedroom floor. I think we can assume they were recently worn.

[UCANSEE2]

Tiffany Sessions (20 at disappearance) and Michael Negrete (18 at disappearance)were hardly children when they disappeared. As a matter of fact, they were years older than Damon Van Dam was when Adam Walsh disappeared.

Just goes to show that INFORMATION makes the difference.

Easy to jump to a conclusion when you only have partial data.

That is partially why I said "looks like".

Were I to continue to insist that Damon was a scout for CHILD ABDUCTORS, and refer to those two cases as examples, I WOULD LOOK LIKE A BIG IDIOT.

That is why I have a difficult time with people that keep using the same 'proof' over and over that has been discounted by testimony.

And how are you? Haven't spoken with you for a while.

[EllaMinnow]

I'm fine, thank you. How are you?

I just did a google search and read 8 articles about the "Candyman" kiddy porn ring - not one mention of any missing or abducted children.
All of the children molested and photographed by members of this ring are alive and accounted for.

[Karson]

Go back and read my post again. Your response to my post doesn't make a dab of sense.

[cyncooper]

It was over 100 here in KC most of the weekend.

Whew, that's hot for you guys! We've hovered around 100 and had some much welcomed rain. Today is cloudy and about 94, so nice for us! I love the sun, but too much of a good thing and all that, so the clouds are a nice change.

[Freedom2specul8]

ok Doe Ray me me me me :)

[Freedom2specul8]

"Why did he jump the gun on jury instruction" That's a good question krodg.. am pinging our local atty's...maybe they can shed some light. I don't think it'll matter cuz the instructions can be modified prior to handing them over the jury if necessary. I didn't realize that many appeals are made because of jury instructions..not sure how successful they care..so I hope judge mudd knows his stuff wrt:that issue!

[UCANSEE2]

BTW, how do you know Westerfield isn't part of the aledged ring ?

He could be a one time downloader of CHILD PORN.

It could have been NEAL that was the downloader.

He could be a regular subscriber to this site.

He could be a member of the grab a child/film yourself having sex with them club.

We have not seen any evidence or testimony to this effect in court.

Since the first man in the RING was arrested Jan 27, I would think the police had evidence, or the group in Sweden had the information to give that could have identified any of these possibilities. Since they didn't bring them out in court, one must assume such did not exist.

I still say the fact that the POLICE had a search warrant searching for ROPES/CHAINS, etc means they thought they had one of these CHILD PORN RING guys. Instead of 'finding' a suspect, they were pointed at a suspect, and when he didn't have the 'goods', too bad. Enough trace evidence was found to make him look suspicious, so it was decided he should hang to ease the conscience of the community and help the reelection bids of a local politician.

Afterwards, police actually found the 2nd CHILD PORN RING guy they wanted. Got him right after the time Danielle might have actually been killed, or dumped at Dehesa Rd.

Nice of them and the media to keep it quiet.

[VRWC_minion]

These were the clothes found by Le on her bedroom floor. I think we can assume they were recently worn

That isn't a fair assumption in my house, that is all I am saying.

[cyncooper]

Do you see any reason for suspecting that Danielle may be been abducted by those involved in the INTERNATIONAL CHILD PORN RING being run from SD/Poway?

I don't see any connection at this time.

VRWC_minion had a good question---any thoughts if DW was involved in the child-porn ring? He did have possession of child porn.

The police did look at the van Dam computers and found porn (Feldman's question that was sustained). But there has been no evidence whatsoever that Damon was involved in *child* porn.

[FresnoDA]

Just curious oh numerical one? Have you EVER perused one of the VD trial transcripts? Just wondering, since you questions are so rudimentary, regarding the trial.......

[VRWC_minion]

Possible connection to girl scouts ? Maybe one of her girl scout friends had older sister who was at pistol range ? These days the girls are changing car oil, teaching each other about health and exploring the scientific world, said local Cadet/Senior Girl Scout Troop 56 Leader Theresa DeSanto. She has noticed a gradual change toward more adventurous activities. "They can go white water rafting, rock climbing, rifle and pistol shooting, skiing and camping. As they get older more travel opportunities open up."

[Freedom2specul8]

It's not unusual to look for ropes and chains when searching for a kidnapping victim is it???

[connectthedots]

You are correct. I should have simply thanked you for clearing up the misunderstanding of demsux. Please accept my apology.

[VRWC_minion]

Do you see any reason for suspecting that Danielle may be been abducted by those involved in the INTERNATIONAL CHILD PORN RING being run from SD/Poway?

In that one of them was arrested on February 27, it makes it less likely if thinking rationally. Unless as I speculated before, that one believes he has nothing to lose.

In any case we are assuming that Westerfield isn't part of ring.

[Freedom2specul8]

Links to articles JJ posted about child porn ring.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/722360/posts?page=140#140

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/722360/posts?page=141#141