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Take Cover! We re seeing way too many breasts.
National Review Online | May 14, 2002 | Betsy Hart

Posted on 05/14/2002 9:07:47 AM PDT by LavaDog

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To: LavaDog
Before my sister-in-law became pregnant, she often complained about guys staring at her (DD) breasts. With me, her complaints fell on deaf ears because she always wore very tight and usually low-cut blouses to showcase them.

Soon after she gave birth to her first child, she began breast feeding. I was shocked the first time we went out together in public and she exposed her breast to the world (in the middle of a mall food court) as she began to breastfeed her newborn. My wife suggested maybe she should cover her breast with the baby blanket and my sister-in-law responded with "F@#% them if they have a problem with it! I am feeding my baby and it is a perfectly natural thing to do!"

As my stunned wife struggled for something to say, I very calmly replied "Yes, it is a natural act but so is defecating and nobody wants to see that happening in public either."

She refused to cover herself up, so we walked off and left her there.

141 posted on 05/14/2002 4:16:01 PM PDT by occam's chainsaw
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To: Darlin'
Granted, it is my opinion along with that of polite society.

LOL! You weren't in the debate club, were you? Do you have a link to the rules of "polite society"? It's your opinion and nothing else. I can tell you why it is impolite to sneeze on someone. It is unhealthy and spreads germs and disease. Now, it's your turn: WHY is it rude to discreetly breastfeed in public?

Thank you for that quaint but dated 1936 definition of politically correct.

The definition of "politically correct" is valid. You are trying to impose "Darlin's Rules of Acceptable Behavior" on the rest of society. It offends you, therefore no one should do it. That is a textbook example of "politically correct". Is there another definition I should know about? Do you have a link?

142 posted on 05/14/2002 6:09:31 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: Darlin'
"Thank you. You just made my point. You do it for your personal convenience"

If you mean as opposed to YOUR convenience your darn tootin', darlin'. And by the way, do tell me where you think is the better place: sitting on a toilet in a public stall or a hot car? Do you really think the infant is comfortable clinging to mom in a hot, sticky car?

Not to mention that mother's comfort is all part of the milk production and let down reflex. You have yet to give a reason why a woman who is nursing MODESTLY shouldn't nurse out in public, except to satisfy a few sick minds.

Do you have kids? Did you bottle feed? What is your expertise in the matter?

143 posted on 05/14/2002 6:17:16 PM PDT by joathome
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To: HairOfTheDog
So much common sense, HairoftheDog, so much common sense. I guess God did not bless everyone with such. :)
144 posted on 05/14/2002 6:22:22 PM PDT by joathome
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To: occam's chainsaw
And compare your sister-in-law to the woman who dresses modestly and nurses modestly--completely different, I tell ya'!
145 posted on 05/14/2002 6:24:00 PM PDT by joathome
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To: andysandmikesmom
Yes, there are many studies that document the links between bf and lower incidence of allergies. Even when bf children have allergies, they are typically less severe than those of formula fed babies. When I see someone shake up a bottle of baby formula, it makes me gag.
146 posted on 05/14/2002 6:34:58 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: HairOfTheDog
Are you really seeing indiscreet bare breasted women everywhere? - or are you arguing that the idea of it bothers you, whether you have actually ever seen it or not?

Thank you, that is what I am trying to find out as well; and maybe I am getting a little testy. I don't see anyone here advocating that breastfeeding women should be exempt from public decency laws.

And I do mean what is really WRONG with it? Only a really nosy person would even notice, and they would notice what? A babe in the arms of a mom.

Beautifully said. Maybe if we get an answer we can have a real debate. Darlin' finds all nursing in public offensive, but won't say why. Ping me if you get an answer, ok?

147 posted on 05/14/2002 6:36:37 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: Dixie Mom
will do... :~D
148 posted on 05/14/2002 6:41:23 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: joathome
I think it's the same as changing a baby's diaper out in public. There's nothing wrong with a bare-butt baby obviously ---but I've seen people changing them out in the open and maybe everyone doesn't prefer to see that. It's just consideration for others.
149 posted on 05/14/2002 6:49:43 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: occam's chainsaw
She refused to cover herself up, so we walked off and left her there.

Your SIL sounds like the woman in the article -- an exhibitionist. When it is done discreetly, there is absolutely no reason for anyone except mom & baby to know that the baby is being fed.

150 posted on 05/14/2002 6:50:56 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: LavaDog
Joe Walsh said it best..."ILBT's".....
151 posted on 05/14/2002 6:59:05 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: hobbes1
Looks like I got a new sport to follow this summer!
152 posted on 05/14/2002 7:03:07 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: joathome
And by the way, do tell me where you think is the better place: sitting on a toilet in a public stall or a hot car?

Who would be willing to eat a meal in a public restroom? That's just gross, and, in my opinion, far more offensive than any perceived violation suffered by anyone who would suggest such a thing.

153 posted on 05/14/2002 7:09:05 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: Dixie Mom; joathome; HairOfTheDog
Obviously the three of you breastfeed your children in public places and you seem unduly defensive about it. Yet all of you are of the opinion that you do so discreetly. Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinions just as I am. Clearly none of us are inclined to change our minds on this subject. You have spent an inordinate amount of time trying to convince me or yourselves that your behavior is acceptable but I'm not buying it. You might try those arguments on the people who have to be in your presence in public places the next time you are discreetly feeding your hungry child. As for me, well, this topic has bored me about as long as I can stand it. So, ladies, the floor is yours. Rant away. You might want to check out post #141 just for variety. LOL
154 posted on 05/14/2002 7:12:25 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Darlin'
I am single and don't have children... so I feel pretty objective on it. You haven't answered any of the questions I asked that might shed light on why you feel the way you do. I am not usually convinced to change my mind based on the unexplained judgments of others or name calling. Moms nursing their babes just doesn't instinctually bother me, and I have not been convinced by you that it should.

...and post 141 was about a rude and crude person. I don't usually use the bad behavior of a few to control everyone else.

155 posted on 05/14/2002 7:26:55 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: FITZ
But babies' butts frequently have poop on them, and are visible or can be smelled--not exactly a prelude to an enjoyable meal! We are talking about something clean, odorless, and out of view. The comparison just doesn't work.

I think people are confusing "polite society" with the Victorian age. Go farther back than that, and you won't find mothers nursing in outhouses when away from their home! They found a nice place to nurse, and did so discreetly.

156 posted on 05/14/2002 8:03:12 PM PDT by joathome
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To: Darlin'
Darlin', you were the one who went atacking away, at something you can't even see or smell.

Have a nice evening.

157 posted on 05/14/2002 8:07:27 PM PDT by joathome
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To: joathome
No---I agree completely with the discreetly. I see women breastfeeding in church that most people probably don't realize are. If someone makes a big production of it then that's what they're trying to accomplish ---the baby doesn't mind it being discreet.
158 posted on 05/14/2002 8:49:47 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Darlin'
you seem unduly defensive about it.

In case you didn't notice, you are the one who has been on the defensive. Do I need to get my dictionary out again? :)

You have spent an inordinate amount of time trying to convince me or yourselves that your behavior is acceptable but I'm not buying it.

No one is trying to convince you of anything. We are trying to understand why you find discreet public nursing unacceptable. For whatever reason, you are unable or unwilling to articulate your position.

You might try those arguments on the people who have to be in your presence in public places the next time you are discreetly feeding your hungry child.

I'm not sure what that means, but it sounds pretty PC.

You might want to check out post #141 just for variety.

Follow along. Blatent exhibitionism as expressed in the article and that post is wrong. Discreet nursing is not.

159 posted on 05/14/2002 9:20:43 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: jpsb
Re post #65 -
But – it would take a few years before we reached burnout.
160 posted on 05/16/2002 3:10:35 AM PDT by R. Scott
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