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Israelites Were In America Before Columbus
Ensign Message ^ | Pastor Alan Campbell

Posted on 04/16/2002 4:19:58 PM PDT by blam

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To: sawsalimb
>Zechariah Sitchin has also made the claim that Semitic peoples were present in North and South America sometime way back when.

If it is sometime after ~1600 BC then a case could be made that it was some of the "sea people", early Israelite leavers from Egypt.

21 posted on 04/16/2002 9:03:50 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
Idiot that I am,I loaned the book out,and don't have it in front of me,so what follows is from memory. Don't bet the ranch on it.

IIRC,the people he was talking about were from somewhere in France,and were pushed out by the Romans. They the settled in the British Isles,but gradually were pushed out of the Isles proper by population pressure and wars. They wound up in the Faeroe Islands and Orkney Islands,and lived mostly be trading walrus Ivory and other high value items like that,as well as fishing.

They were gradually pushed to the west by the Vikings,and were finally absorbed by the Esquimo tribes. Sorry-can't recall any dates as to their adption of Christianity.

22 posted on 04/16/2002 9:15:31 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: sawsalimb
 
>IIRC,the people he was talking about were from somewhere in France,and were pushed out by the Romans.

That could put them in the Christian era at least, so that much fits.

>They were gradually pushed to the west by the Vikings,

Hmmm.  I didn't realize the Vikings actually "pushed" anyone in front of them. Running to escape, maybe.  Interesting thought...

>and were finally absorbed by the Esquimo tribes.

The idea that some Vikings (or their equivalent) mated with early Canadian Indians (900 AD) is an old and accepted one in parts of Canadian Inuit lore.  Also used to explain the Blue-Eyed Mandan Indians of Montana, etc......

23 posted on 04/16/2002 9:22:29 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: blam
Very interesting article and website. Thanks for posting it.
24 posted on 04/16/2002 9:23:56 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: blam;Gods, Graves, Glyphs;
OK

To find all articles tagged or indexed using 'Gods, Graves, Glyphs'

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25 posted on 04/17/2002 12:12:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: blam
I had never heard that the British were a great seagoing nation before the Viking invasion. My reading of history was that everyone was always invading England both before and after the Romans since the English Channel wasn't so much a barrier as a wide open highway (in the days before roads sea travel was far easier than travel overland). The Vikings just devastated Britain because their fleets (sometimes of several hundred vessels) would appeal out of nowhere, like alien spaceships, sail up rivers, attack towns, rape women, while their terrified husband stood by shamefaced. Then came William the Conquerer from Normandy (a French speaking Viking) who infused the British with warrior blood, made them an empire-building, seafaring nation and no one ever successfully invaded England again.
26 posted on 04/17/2002 2:00:23 AM PDT by DentsRun
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To: Tennessee_Bob
I would hazard a guess that this stone was inscribed at around the same time so many "Viking rune stones" were being "discovered" in America. It is interesting how some of the most famous rune stones were discovered in areas were Scandanavians settled in the 1800s.
27 posted on 04/17/2002 4:26:15 AM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: blam
LINK to Scholarly Article on Welsh Legend of Prince Madoc</>

THE PLAQUE IN QUESTION WAS PLACED THERE IN 1953 BY THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. LOL

28 posted on 04/17/2002 4:37:37 AM PDT by flying Elvis
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Statue recovered from an Olmec (big Negroid heads) archaeological site in Mexico

29 posted on 04/17/2002 5:04:33 AM PDT by blam
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To: flying Elvis
(from your link)

"The Lord Madoc, sonne of Owen Gwyndd prince of NorthWales, leaving his brothers in contention, and warre for their inheritance sought, by sea (westerlie from Irland), for some forein, and—Region to plant hymselfe in with soveranity: wth Region when he had found, he returned to Wales againe and hym selfe wth Shipps, vituals, and men and women sufficient for the coloniy, wth spedely he leed into the peninsula; then named Farquara; but of late Florida or into some of the Provinces, and territories neere ther abouts: and in Apalchen, Mocosa, or Norombera: then of these 4 beinge notable portions of the ancient Atlantis, no longer—nowe named America16".

I did not think it was called America at this time, 1170AD?

30 posted on 04/17/2002 5:18:35 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The Olmecs of Mexico

31 posted on 04/17/2002 5:21:00 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Another Olmec head in Mexico

32 posted on 04/17/2002 5:28:35 AM PDT by blam
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To: Moonmad27

More statues found in Olmec digs

33 posted on 04/17/2002 5:38:30 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
A few burials, one near Columbus Ga., one at Bat Creek in east Tennessee, written up a few yrs back in Bib Arch Rview, ...coins of Bar Kokhba found in Ky, Tenn, GA...

It is not to be doubted that Jewish diehards fleeing the Roman takeover after the fall of Bar Kokhba (AD 135) fled to the present USA.

As to earlier arrivals, Jonah may have been bound here, since "Tarshish" referred to anything so far west that one had to sail out of Gibraltar to reach it...

34 posted on 04/17/2002 6:41:17 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: blam
are these guys doing the cabbage patch or what?
35 posted on 04/17/2002 7:32:22 AM PDT by teeman8r
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To: blam
Your #29 and #33 pics look like stuff that's come out of middle east digs. The #29 post in particular. Whoever the artist's model for those statues was,he assuredly was not of Native American ancestry.(Unless we're ready to revise our definition of "Native American" a bit.)
36 posted on 04/17/2002 8:07:13 AM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: blam
In fact,the statue in #33 looks almost like an oriental,to me,although there's room for argument. Still,if I had to bet,I'd say "Mongol or Chinese".
37 posted on 04/17/2002 8:10:31 AM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: sawsalimb
"In fact,the statue in #33 looks almost like an oriental,to me,although there's room for argument. Still,if I had to bet,I'd say "Mongol or Chinese"."

Yup. The point is that there were a lot of 'different' people down there 'running around' with the Olmecs, 1300BC-600BC.

38 posted on 04/17/2002 12:02:42 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Norombera: then of these 4 beinge notable portions of the ancient Atlantis, no longer—nowe named America16". As William Sherman has commented, "In Dee's 1576-1578 manuscripts Madoc became the linchpin of claims for North America

Exactly. It was called American at the time of Dee's writings though.

39 posted on 04/17/2002 12:47:49 PM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: flying Elvis
italics off
40 posted on 04/17/2002 12:48:26 PM PDT by flying Elvis
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