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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: ksen
Morning, everyone. I will be out of town 'til Sunday or Monday, see everyone then. Take care.
45,861 posted on 12/06/2002 5:19:37 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Lil'freeper
ACK! How can you say this?

...and ones that we can’t even nibble at without getting sick to our stomachs on the other....

Oh, I only meant that on the one hand we have The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings which everyone loves and has no problem reading. However, it seems that a majority of the people who begin The Silmarillion do not finish it.

I was just wondering at the two different reactions the same person can have to a different work by the same author.

I think the Silmarillion rocks!

And so do I. ;^)

45,862 posted on 12/06/2002 5:25:18 AM PST by ksen
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To: Lil'freeper; JenB
Mention is made that after the Last Days of Middle-Earth, Iluvatar would reveal to the minds of his creations "the secret fire".

When Gandalf was on the Bridge of Khazad-Dum he told the Balrog that he was a servant of "the secret fire" and "wielder of the flame of Anor." I wonder if the secret fire that Gandalf serves is the same secret fire that Iluvatar said he would use to illumine the minds of his Children.

Could the secret fire be Tolkien's version of the Holy Spirit?
45,863 posted on 12/06/2002 5:36:21 AM PST by ksen
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To: Sam Cree
See ya Sam! Have a great and safe trip. Come back to us safely and quickly. We'll keep a light on for you.
45,864 posted on 12/06/2002 5:38:10 AM PST by ksen
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To: ksen
Hmmm, to funkle or not to funkle, that is the question....
45,865 posted on 12/06/2002 5:40:26 AM PST by ksen
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To: ksen
I was just wondering at the two different reactions the same person can have to a different work by the same author.

Christopher Tolkien pieced together The Silmarillion after his father was dead. I'll give you a big reason -- it is written in verse! I might attempt it again, once I finish reading the Kalevala.

For those who don't care for verse, The History of the Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales are nice additions to the Tolkien universe.

45,866 posted on 12/06/2002 5:42:03 AM PST by John Farson
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
I actually read the part last night where Gollum says "We are lost." It's during Faramir's interrogation of him.

Sure struck me different after listening to that song.
45,867 posted on 12/06/2002 5:45:10 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: John Farson
Hmm, I didn't realize TS was written in verse. That would, I suppose, account for the difficulty many people have in reading it.

My daughter asked me last night what TS was like. I told her it was sort of like reading the Old Testament.

45,868 posted on 12/06/2002 5:49:55 AM PST by ksen
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To: g'nad
Today is our Christmas Card Event!! I'm off in a rush. See you all later and I hope to post pictures!
45,869 posted on 12/06/2002 5:49:57 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
y'all have a great day, 2JM... thanks for what yer doin'...
45,870 posted on 12/06/2002 5:52:47 AM PST by g'nad
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To: ksen
IMO, the Old Testament (KJV) is much easier to follow. There are fewer names to keep track of.
45,871 posted on 12/06/2002 5:53:46 AM PST by John Farson
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To: ecurbh
Great gallery ecurbh! You have found some nice big pictures, need to go through them again and grab some of those for my screensaver!
45,872 posted on 12/06/2002 5:57:49 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
Thanks ksen! - for your summary of Silmarillion sections! - I, like 2J, don't think I have the heart to read it now, but I am inspired to when the new movie excitement seetles down!
45,873 posted on 12/06/2002 5:59:37 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: All
Oh - And Hullo! - Good Morning!
45,874 posted on 12/06/2002 6:00:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: John Farson
Oh, I dunno. Plenty of begat-begat-begat-begats in the OT. But it is very KJVish.
45,875 posted on 12/06/2002 6:03:40 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: John Farson; JenB; Lil'freeper; HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed
I love the Old Testament, but you have to admit there are some pretty dry sections. Most people who begin reading the OT (not to be confused with Overtaxed) stop when they get into the description of the Tabernacle, or if they get past that they stop in Leviticus.

Christians who ignore the Old Testament because it is "too hard" are robbing themselves of over half of God's word. Likewise, Tolkienites who shy away from TS are robbing themselves of a much deeper appreciation for what Tolkien has created.

45,876 posted on 12/06/2002 6:11:40 AM PST by ksen
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To: HairOfTheDog
Your welcome Hair, and good morning to you too.
45,877 posted on 12/06/2002 6:13:18 AM PST by ksen
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To: ksen
You are mighty inspired this morning!
45,878 posted on 12/06/2002 6:16:11 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
I am kinda tired.... was restless trying to sleep last night.
45,879 posted on 12/06/2002 6:17:55 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
You are mighty inspired this morning!

Huh? Who? Me?

45,880 posted on 12/06/2002 6:18:17 AM PST by ksen
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