The New Hobbit Hole

[g'nad]

Are you sure you want to go there in front of all us wimmen...

I like livin' dangerously...

[carton253]

Yes you do...

I like that in a man...

[g'nad]

Should we be getting ready to send out a search party?

You have my axe...

[g'nad]

stop it please... yer makin' me blush...

[ksen]

If that scene is in the TTT...

That's true. I never thanked you for your review.
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Thanks, very nicely done.

[2Jedismom]

You are telling me! I am so ready for this Two Towers!! I am so excited, because I know it's going to be all right, whereas I had no hope at all this time last year...I never imagined they'd be able to pull it off.

We have the soundtrack to look forward to next...it comes out on Dec 10th.

[carton253]

Heck, I'm buying them photo books...

[2Jedismom]

LOL! I wish I could...but I'm on a tight budget. As it is, I'm probably not getting anything further for Christmas.

But my folks might get the boys something...

[ksen]

I think jrherreid is Rosie's brother.

jrherreid, have you heard from Rosie since Monday? She's usually not gone for this long.

[HairOfTheDog]

Yes... I heard him talking about the Evenstar as a symbol... and I liked his reasoning.

Its role in TTT is probably already known from the trailer, because we have already seen the conversation where Eowyn asks Aragorn about it.

I liked his explanation of the scene at the ford, where Arwen says "What grace is given me, let it pass to him". (Pinging ecurbh because we talked about this scene once).

He said that that part of the scene was filmed in a pickup later. When they started to put the film together, they realized that with the "car chase" nature of the way the flight to the ford looked on screen, the film had lost touch with the critical nature of Frodo's condition when they departed the trollshaws. That Frodo had been lost in the excitement of the chase.

Her words "What Grace is given me, let it pass to him" are pulled from the end of the story, where Arwen grants Frodo her place at the Grey Havens.

From the appendix: "At the end of the First Age the Valar gave to the Half-elven an irrevocable choice to which kindred they would belong. Elrond chose to be of Elven-kind, and became a master of wisdom. To him therefore was granted the same grace as to those of the High Elves that still lingered in Middle-earth: that when weary at last of the mortal lands they could take ship from the Grey Havens and pass into the Uttermost West; and this grace continued after the change of the world. But to the children of Elrond a choice was also appointed: to pass with him from the circles of the world; or if they remained, to become mortal and die in Middle-earth. For Elrond, therefore, all chances of the War of the Ring were fraught with sorrow".

So that, at any rate, was PJ's reasoning.

[NewCenturions]

hmm, our library doesn't have dvds but I'm thinking if I give my old copy to the kids ("for the children"), I'll have no choice but to order the new one. That is logical.

[HairOfTheDog]

jrherreid, have you heard from Rosie since Monday? She's usually not gone for this long.

Good call ksen! - Last I heard she was hoping to see the movie at her brother's yesterday!

[ksen]

I got the sense that Fran Walsh was the real Tolkien-phile of the two. It sounded like PJ had read the books a couple times, but it was Fran that really understood the nature of the books.

[carton253]

It's great reasoning... The hardest thing I have to do in the play is to keep all the characters balanced and moving forward... that their motivation and "trueness" are not lost in the action...

To keep the character consistent.

It's hard because events could swallow up a character.

For example (weak one) In the play the little ones are doing... takes place during the roaring twenties. There are bootleggers and crooked cops, etc. Well, one bootlegger has two "hit men" that work for him. Virgil and Lester. The joke is that Virgil and Lester are the two smallest characters on the stage. That joke works and then the joke is over. Except everyone has to keep being afraid of Virgil and Lester. No matter how incompetent and little and cute they are. I find my "actors" forgetting this, but they can't. Until the end, the dread of the stage is that Virgil and Lester will rub you out.

[ksen]

I would donate my original copy to the library, except I want to keep my extra disk...

That's the exact same reason I'm keeping my copy of the theatrical release.

Last night I was thinking about giving the old DVD to a friend of mine, but then I remembered about the stuff on the second disc I'd be giving away. So that thought lasted about 5 seconds. ;^)

[ksen]

Oh joy......

Lott re-elected Senate Republican leader

[carton253]

Oh my word... what are they thinking.

[Sam Cree]

I guess they think Lott did such a great job before, by acting like a 2nd rate Democrat, trembling at the words of the real Democrats, that they had to have him again.

Can't these idiots understand that if we wanted Democrats, we'd have voted for Democrats?

Makes you think that W is the only Republican that does understand this.

[Overtaxed]

Oh my word... what are they thinking.

[carton253]

I think I'm going to have to give Senator Lott a call and let him know my concerns...