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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: RosieCotton; HairOfTheDog
You know, in my mind's eye...when I read that part, I just sorta imagined a pile of gunpowder or something being set off! Not something as sophisticated as a bomb. But still, the bomb fits ok with my mental image so I'm happy with it. And if there's gonna be a bomb, that one looks like one Saruman would use!
31,321 posted on 10/08/2002 6:28:48 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom; HairOfTheDog
Well, yeah...I basically thought of gunpowder, though I thought they might have somehow put it together with a fuse. I'm not sure exactly what "mortar bomb" means, but the picture you linked to looks fine to me!
31,322 posted on 10/08/2002 6:30:04 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton
I have never imagined a bomb... But those words never stood out to me before. He is kindof a cute little bomb! And the boom was good in the trailer!

I may like Helm's Deep the movie much better than I ever loved Helm's Deep the book. Usually at this point in the story I was so bogged down with descriptions of war that I was trying to get the battle over with so I could check on Frodo and Sam.
31,323 posted on 10/08/2002 6:31:38 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: RosieCotton
Your Fiona is a little monster isn't she? ;~D

The cat I have now peed in my shoes when I first got him. Dang it thats annoying. Was hard to get the smell out of shoes.
31,324 posted on 10/08/2002 6:34:24 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I may like Helm's Deep the movie much better than I ever loved Helm's Deep the book.

I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to Helm's Deep or not. I'm not much for battle scenes...for example, the first time I watched the movie I was REALLY ready for the movie to move on by the time the cave troll died. Enough of the battling, get back to the STORY!

I don't mind it so much now that I've seen it a few times, but usually action just makes me impatient. Though there's also a lot of interesting character parts during the battle, so maybe it'll be better than I think!

31,325 posted on 10/08/2002 6:34:37 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: g'nad
oh,..I don't know about that... I got the triple precious...

I got the quadruple precious (20000), nyah!

31,326 posted on 10/08/2002 6:35:20 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
I love the way Tolkien just sneaks Merry and Pippin in on you when they are finally reunited with the Three Hunters. You don't have any idea there is fixin' to be a reunion and then they stumble across them!

The ring beyond was filled with steaming water: a bubbling cauldron, in which there heaved and floated a wreckage of beams and spars, chests and casks and broken gear. Twisted and leaning pillars reared their splintered stems above the flood. but all the roads were drowned. Far off, it seemed, half veiled in winding cloud, there loomed the island rock. Still dark and tall, unbroken by the storm, the tower of Orthanc stood. Pale waters lapped about its feet. The king and all his company sat silent on their horses, marvelling, perceiving that the power of Saruman was overthrown; but how they could not guess. And now they turned their eyes towards the archway and the ruined gates. There they saw close beside them a great rubble-heap; and suddenly they were aware of two small figures lying on it at their ease, grey-clad, hardly to be seen among the stones. There were bottles and bowls and platters laid beside them, as if they had just eaten well, and now rested from their labour. One seemed asleep; the other, with crossed legs and arms behind his head, leaned back against a broken rock and sent from his mouth long wisps and little rings of thin blue smoke.

31,327 posted on 10/08/2002 6:35:48 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: HairOfTheDog
I may like Helm's Deep the movie much better than I ever loved Helm's Deep the book.

Is that because elves are going down? :)

31,328 posted on 10/08/2002 6:36:54 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: RosieCotton
You and I react the same way to the action scenes, I think. Typical chick response I guess. But it is easier for me to WATCH a long battle than it is to READ about a long battle, so I think it might improve it for me!
31,329 posted on 10/08/2002 6:37:07 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Mortars fire projectiles at high angles...they have limited range, but their high trajectory makes them ideal for hitting targets in defilade i.e. behind a hill or wall...the idea with siege mortars is not to destroy the walls, but what's on the other side of the wall...while siege cannon blast away at the walls or works of a fortification trying to cause a breach, the mortars are raining down on the defenders, causing casualties, fatigue, and destroying infrastructure...

Therefore I don't agree with the term "mortar bomb"...

Gandalph had knowledge of gunpowder to make fireworks, so I assume Saruman did too... it's only one small step from firecracker to bomb...you just make it bigger, pack it tighter...I always assumed the Uruks dug under the wall at Hornburg and placed a bomb manufactured under Saruman's supervision...

31,330 posted on 10/08/2002 6:37:57 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: HairOfTheDog
Your Fiona is a little monster isn't she? ;~D

Yes, she is. I had heard dachshunds could be hard to housebreak, but didn't really anticipate the problems I've had with her. The trouble is, she's like a very small boy (or at least like certain brothers were...): if she's able to go out and if she's not super busy, she's very, very good....but if she gets wrapped up in what she's doing, she forgets until she HAS to go, and then goes wherever. Which, considering she was having so much FUN playing with her brother at the house, must have been what happened.

What's worse is that I didn't notice it and put the coat ON and wore it to work...so now it's in my clothes and I can't do anything about it.

31,331 posted on 10/08/2002 6:38:00 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Overtaxed
[crinkles brow and stares]
31,332 posted on 10/08/2002 6:39:01 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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31,333 posted on 10/08/2002 6:40:24 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
But it is easier for me to WATCH a long battle than it is to READ about a long battle

Yeah, I suppose that's true. But in books (Tolkien excepted), I can just skim through the battle and move on. Can't do that with a movie, at least not in the theater!

But there are enough smatterings of dialog that it shouldn't be nearly as bad as some other movies.

31,334 posted on 10/08/2002 6:41:00 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: HairOfTheDog
Typical chick response I guess.

You guessed right...

31,335 posted on 10/08/2002 6:41:14 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad
I always assumed the Uruks dug under the wall at Hornburg and placed a bomb manufactured under Saruman's supervision...

Yes, I would buy that.... I don't know if the folks at TORN know what they are doing when they use the word mortar... I don't know if they know if it is a projectile or not.

31,336 posted on 10/08/2002 6:42:00 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: g'nad
You guessed right...

You mean the feminazis are WRONG about men and women being exactly the same??? Whoda thunk it!

I had to laugh a bit at my little brother's friend's response to the movie. He LOVED it, but also said there was too much "walking and talking" and not enough fighting. I could have done with still MORE "walking and talking", myself!

31,337 posted on 10/08/2002 6:43:38 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton
I'm not sure exactly what "mortar bomb" means,

See my #31330...

31,338 posted on 10/08/2002 6:45:24 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: HairOfTheDog
I don't know if they know if it is a projectile or not.

Well if they had hired me as a technical consultant... wouldn't you love that job?...

31,339 posted on 10/08/2002 6:47:38 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad; Sam Cree
I would love that job!

Our troll is back this morning over in that Extended DVD thread, which has become a pretty good thread in spite of him, but he is a pain.
31,340 posted on 10/08/2002 6:56:52 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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