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The New Hobbit Hole
Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: carton253
Did I lose by one
To: carton253
Did I lose by one
To: carton253
My word, is Free Reuplbic slow today.
To: Corin Stormhands; carton253
Poor Smeagol. Tricks-ed again...
BWAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!
To: RosieCotton
I know, I know. I just can't help it. He was really torn about delivering Frodo to Shelob...but Sam helped him do it, by being mean to him.
Gollum looked at them. A strange expression passed over his lean hungry face. The gleam faded from his eyes, and they went dim and grey, old and tired. A spasm of pain seemed to twist him, and he turned away, peering back up towards the pass, shaking his head, as if engaged in some interior debate. Then he came back, and slowly putting out a trembling hand, very cautiously he touched Frodo's knee - but almost the touch was a caress. For a fleeting moment, could one of the sleepers have seen him, they would have thought that they beheld an old weary hobbit, shrunken by the years that had carried him far beyond his time, beyond friends and kin, and the fields and streams of youth, an old starved pitiable thing. But at that touch Frodo stirred and cried out softly in his sleep, and immediately Sam was wide awake. The first thing he saw was Gollum - `pawing at master,' as he thought.
`Hey you!' he said roughly. `What are you up to?'
'Nothing, nothing,' said Gollum softly. `Nice Master!' `I daresay,' said Sam. 'But where have you been to - sneaking off and sneaking back, you old villain? '
Gollum withdrew himself, and a green glint flickered under his heavy lids. Almost spider-like he looked now, crouched back on his bent
To: carton253
Reuplbic=Republic
To: Corin Stormhands
Look at your own riskew! ew! ew!
Pardon me, I have to go scour my eyes out now!
To: 2Jedismom; RosieCotton; carton253
I'm sorry Rosie, but Sam isn't really at his best during that part of their trip. It is understandable though, considering what they'd been through so far.
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10/02/2002 1:26:36 PM PDT
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ksen
To: Bear_in_RoseBear; ksen; RosieCotton; rightwingreligiousfanatic
Pardon me, I have to go scour my eyes out now! You know, I did warn y'all...
To: ksen
Sam was exhausted, frightened and suspicious (with good reason). He can't be blamed, but it's still a fact.
To: ksen; 2Jedismom
I'm sorry Rosie, but Sam isn't really at his best during that part of their trip.He was only looking out for Frodo! There was maybe ONE time when Gollum didn't deserve the way he spoke to him, but really...you never knew whether he was good Gollum or bad Gollum at any one moment! Can you blame Sam for being suspicious, especially when Frodo and the whole quest were at stake?
To: RosieCotton
No...Sam can't be blamed. But it's still my reason for feeling some inkling of compassion for the old Sneaker!
To: ksen; RosieCotton; 2Jedismom; carton253
I'm sorry Rosie, but Sam isn't really at his best during that part of their trip. Sam may not have been "polite" to Gollum. But Sam's heart was pure. He wanted to protect Frodo and the quest.
Sorry. I don't care what Gandalf says, I really can't feel sorry for Gollum.
To: 2Jedismom
That passage is almost as poignant as the one ksen posted yesterday. I'm with you on Gollum. My heart goes out to him, as Tolkien's did.....and yet he was ultimately corrupted utterly....
To: RosieCotton
We're approaching 500 posts since late last night, no?I think we're unconsciously trying to reach 30,000 today...
To: Corin Stormhands
But Sam's heart was pure.And this is really my reason for loving Sam the way I do...is he perfect? No. He certainly has his moments of blundering, and he's not always the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he is so GOOD at heart!
To: Bear_in_RoseBear
I think we're unconsciously trying to reach 30,000 today... Well it had better wait until I get home from choir practice!
To: rightwingreligiousfanatic; ksen; carton253; Corin Stormhands; RosieCotton
I feel sorry for Gollum too... I think, other than Sauron and the Orcs, pretty much every "evil" character in the story had a chance at some point to repent of their evil... and refused the chance.
To: RosieCotton
My favorite line is at the end of FOTR, "Don't you lose him Samwise Gamgee. Don't you lose him. And I don't mean to..."
Greater love hath no man than this...
To: rightwingreligiousfanatic; 2Jedismom; RosieCotton; carton253
Whoa! whoa! whoa! I still love our Samwise. Rosie, you even said he wasn't perfect. I was just pointing out that even though his behavior was understandable it still wasn't his best.
The whole quest may have gone differently if Sam had reacted with compassion rather than passion.
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posted on
10/02/2002 1:39:07 PM PDT
by
ksen
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